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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of the food arrived 8 1947 the Army Air

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Force has announced that a flying death

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- found and is now in the possession of

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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two black with your host Jimmy church on

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the game-changer Radio Network and a GRA

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tonight is night number one of our Egypt

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pictures and videos of the light show on

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social media why because last night Rita

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conference Sunday night last night and

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launch it had just happened I spin

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what was funny the traffic is driving by

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the airport and we're out there filming

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conference last night but today the

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photographs they were coming in from all

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thing the second it was seen all the way

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car at that moment had we been another

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five minutes early or late we wouldn't

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bit earlier we would have walked into

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the hotel and missed it like everybody

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else did or if we were late getting to

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the hood that we would have been in the

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car driving through trial we would have

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big news today really big news and in

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case you missed it that's why you are

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here because after a strange series of

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events that included an undisclosed data

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breach Google will now shut down is

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shutting down Google Plus Google Plus

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will be no more Google made the news

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official today in a blog post largely

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the blog was about new internal privacy

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initiative and it's called project

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strobe well Google decided to shut down

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software glitch this is Google a

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software glitch gave developers access

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to detailed data about its users all the

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way back from 2015 until March of this

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could have everything from their full

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names to their home addresses up for

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grabs and although Google found no

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that it just struggled long but I guess

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and see if Google+ was shut down today

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if they shuddered it already but I

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couldn't get any official information on

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the timeline of this if they just shut

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today or if it's gonna happen

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over time I don't know so if anybody

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that you find out about Google+ and and

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what what the timeline is for that let

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me know and you can post it up there in

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at Google it was nice knowing ya yeah

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the biggest company in the world yeah

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show crackin happy birthday to today one

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of my favorites I'm gonna say it I'm

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just gonna say it now I don't care

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Bruno Mars is 33 years old happy

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birthday Bruno Matt Damon I'll say it to

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Matt Damon today is 48 and if you

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haven't seen Deadpool - you need to go

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and see it it's a great movie but there

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is a scene that Matt Damon heavily

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makeup right you may not know it's Matt

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he's sitting on the back of a pickup

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truck now with his buddy I think they're

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fishing are they hunting I don't know

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what they're doing but that scene is

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cinema gold the outtakes and are great

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because it's extended and if you watch

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the director's cut of Deadpool 2 you get

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the full scene it is great Matt Damon

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alright Chevy Chase today is 75 and also

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today Sigourney Weaver is 69 on this day

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Oh TD now Deadpool one is not better

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than Deadpool - Deadpool - slams

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Deadpool one I totally disagree

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totally disagree John sorry I gotta call

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you on that one

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I gotta call you Deadpool - and it's

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rare that a movie does that but I think

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that pool - is just it's unbelievably

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great I understand history OTD 1967 Che

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Guevara is defeated in a skirmish with a

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special detachment of the Bolivian army

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Guevara was wounded captured and

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executed the next day but his t-shirts

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were not seriously alright Fator fact

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that why is it that every year Che

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Guevara

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I talk about his t-shirts it's so funny

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you know I don't even know if those

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wearing the Che Guevara t-shirts know

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anything about Che Guevara right but

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they think the shirt looks cool so they

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wear it I'm just saying I'm just saying

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Saints and then then I make those

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comments and then inevitably the email

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comes flooding in whatever man it's

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still funny all right

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fader fact this is vetted this is real

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all right

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the Russian this is a fact the Russians

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showed up twelve days late to the 1908

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Olympics in London because they were

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using the Julian calendar instead of the

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Gregorian calendar and I'm not making

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this up

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that is your fader fact all right

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tonight it's night one of our Egypt week

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here on fade to black

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that's right my new saves a day is here

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we're gonna talk about a new report that

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was published today written by him about

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new chambers in the Great Pyramid and

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how to find them there's a lot more

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tonight with my new that we're gonna go

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through it's going to be an unbelievable

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start to the week

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tomorrow night right here Christopher

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Dunn is finally on fade to black can you

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believe it Christopher Dunn tomorrow

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night Wednesday night artist Brad

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Claussen is here I can't believe this

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three first-time guests three

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world-class guests all discussing Egypt

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this week we're gonna close out the week

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with Brad Claussen on Wednesday night

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three nights three first-time guests

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unbelievable Thursday is another Fator

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night with open lines all night long now

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oh man I gotta hit this coffee River

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moon coffee

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fade to black blend also Wednesday night

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brat brat Clawson is here I know you

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guys are you know I'll just say it now

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how cool is it that's that's my birthday

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and I have Brad Pilon on the show yeah

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yeah yeah man I love my job what do we

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know today what do we know today about

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anything think about that for a second

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and I know that I always say we know

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nothing nothing and although that is

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actually true on every front from

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ancient history to space in the universe

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right I mean just a big chunk of

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everything right there we know nothing

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what is happening is that the more that

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we discover the more that we find out

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that we're not only wrong but that we

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know less and less as we discover things

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and I know it seems conflicting I know

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that but it's really true

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let me explain let me help you through

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this this is everything that fade the

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black is about this is how my brain

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the reason for this nobody knows I'm

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gonna repeat that about five times

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tonight the reason for this nobody knows

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I went back and checked my show notes

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from five years ago my show notes

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because I was starting to think about

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the numbers that I quote today I was

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like well you know that's changed right

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someone what looked at some numbers that

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were current at the time and I would

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quote them and one of them and this is

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really strange this is five years ago

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one of them at the time was that there

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are 100 billion stars in our Milky Way

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yeah five years ago now if you check

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around depending on the source if you

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check around and you go back five years

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just just go to the Wayback Machine and

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look that was the number that was

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quoting today depending on the source

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that number is around five hundred

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billion and up by the way in our own

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Milky Way you have to ask yourself how

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could that be how can that doesn't make

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any sense actually the truth now in our

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Milky Way

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and the reason for this I'll say it

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again is that nobody knows nobody knows

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nobody knows how many stars are in the

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Milky Way every star has not been

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counted or named think about it that

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would mean that there is a list

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somewhere compiled of 500 billion named

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stars it doesn't exist so nobody knows

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but they are guessing about this and I

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get that I understand but the more that

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we know about our Milky Way in the

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universe and these numbers are

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increasing the less that we know we

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didn't know five years ago that there

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were 400 billion additional stars in our

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Milky Way

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apparently so the last

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the more that we know the less that we

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know it's crazy if you take this this

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idea this germ of an idea and you take

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it to the next level which is the

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planets in our Milky Way that's right if

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you take the same idea you have the same

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issues in that the numbers have grown in

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the last five years now there's lots of

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reason for this but the main reason for

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this is that we just don't know we don't

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know just five years ago the amount of

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exoplanets that we were talking about

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today we talked about 4,500 to 5,000

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next year it'll be ten thousand to

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twenty thousand it's gonna grow

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exponentially the year after that it's

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going to be twenty thousand forty

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thousand planets you know and with the

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d-wave computer and quantum computing

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and the way that computing is going to

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start to compile these numbers and

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crunch these numbers the it's gonna get

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to an extraordinarily huge number very

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shortly but ten years ago we were

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talking about 15 years ago we're talking

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about 10 exoplanets we just don't know

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the amount of planets in the Milky Way

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now and you have to remember the rogue

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stars that are out there just you know

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that we look at our own solar system and

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we have what 8 9 10 11 12 planets right

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we don't know for sure but if each star

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out there has one planet or eight now we

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are just talking about an

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extraordinarily huge number that we knew

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nothing about a short time ago and as we

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move forward we're finding out that we

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know less and less not only about our

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own solar system because now ratting

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planets

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our own Milky Way right and then we jump

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outside of that and the same problems

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exist right when you expand out and you

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keep going depending on who you listen

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to

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right now different physicists and

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astronomers they quote different numbers

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but five years ago it was 500 or 50 to

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100 billion galaxies in our universe

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strange enough that it was the same

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number of stars in our Milky Way okay

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now they are saying today depending on

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who you listen to speak or what papers

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you that there are 500 billion to a

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trillion galaxies in our universe now

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how can that be and we have the same

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thing applying here everything that I

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just said about our Milky Way right that

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there are not 500 billion named and

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cataloged galaxies they it just doesn't

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exist

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they are guessing now think about how

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freaking large of a list you would have

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if you were compiling all of the stars

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in each of these galaxies in our own and

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then the galaxies themselves these list

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these numbers think about how huge they

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would be it's actually bordering on

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numbered insanity it's crazy if we

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reverse the same process and apply the

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same methodology to our own earth and

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history we find out the same thing is

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happening right here the more we learn

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the less we know it's crazy I know right

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we know less and less as we look at the

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universe our Milky Way we know less and

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less and we don't know what's causing

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the expansion if it is expanding if it's

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stationary fishery we don't we

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we just don't know we don't know what

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those energies are but if we reverse

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that and we bring it all back to earth

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and go go down to the atomic and

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subatomic levels we know less and less

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there - the more that we find out the

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more that we learn we find out that we

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just don't know

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we don't wanna marry and quantum

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mechanics absolutely crushes everything

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today it crushes everything how is it

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possible the more that we learn today

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with with with archaeology in history on

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our own planet how is it that we don't

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know how our ancestors built a simple

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wall sure albeit with huge multi-ton

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blocks but we don't know how it got done

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I'm telling you we know nothing and

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that's on our own planet let alone the

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universe we actually don't have any idea

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it's all guesswork it is there's nobody

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that can tell you how these stones were

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quarried how they removed how they were

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transported how they were carved how

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they were fitted nobody knows they don't

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I'm not talking about a simple brick

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wall in front of your house I'm talking

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about something that our ancestors built

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and we don't understand so the same the

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very same mind work looking at the

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universe applies right here on earth the

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more we learn the less we know and these

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are exciting times tonight

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Manu saves by day is here and some of

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the most important work of the last 25

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to 30 years going back to shock

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John Anthony West of course Robert

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Bauval and in Graham Hancock and others

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Randall Carlson some of this work my new

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has been at the center of it and the

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ideas that have been presented over the

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last 30 years

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are not only some of the most exciting

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but they are starting to come to pass we

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are starting to figure things out

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everything that we thought we knew is

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now changed everything is getting turned

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upside down and as we move forward here

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with the work of Manu and others we're

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starting to find out the answers to

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these critical questions about our very

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own past that either the answers have

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been there all along and they've been

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held from us or they didn't know and we

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are starting to fill in those blanks but

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these are very very exciting times and

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this is exactly why we do fade to black

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right here so this is this is night one

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of Egypt week here on fade to black it's

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gonna be a great night every single

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night

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first-time guests and I cannot wait to

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get to the end of the week to Fator

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night so we can sit around with all of

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you and talk about these shows that are

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about to go down this week this is fade

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to black I am your host Jimmy church

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tonight my new saves my day tomorrow

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night right here Christopher Dunne

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Wednesday night Brad Claussen is gonna

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be here and of course Thursday night is

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Fator night with open lines all night

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long

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fade to black just spoke radio for the

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masses I'm the game changer network and

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kgr a the planet you can follow me on

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twitter at Jay Church radio and I'll be

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right back with our guest my new saves

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Friday stay with us

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evening how are you hello Jimmy it's

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good to be here yeah now just just for

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me say the title of your book the hannam

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ray Hiraki cycle that's why I didn't say

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it nice you know I I just didn't want to

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I didn't want to do a performing

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injustice here on the show but this is

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the thing well let's get one thing out

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of the way first you're a first-time

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guest so we've got to do the first-time

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guests disclaimer so let's do that which

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is my new it's just you and I sitting on

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my couch having a conversation as

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friends and where the conversation

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starts it starts where it ends it ends

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but we're gonna end his friends there

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you go you're right

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you got a deal now first off you're here

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in Southern California you were hanging

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out with Robert Schoch this weekend at

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the portal to ascension conference down

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in Irvine we were there last night we

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missed each other and I just cannot

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believe I called Robert yesterday right

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on the way down and Katie we're coming

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down let's hang out let's you know let's

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you know and and it turns out they were

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already on a plane back to Boston and

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and and we missed them and we missed you

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and we were so close right but I know we

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just passed each other but it will catch

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up next time yeah we certainly will and

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I look forward to it now this is the

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thing and I'm gonna start we're gonna go

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backwards before we go forward so let's

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let's jump way back very few people and

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I've had this conversation with Robert

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and jaws John Anthony West many times

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but very few people get an opportunity

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to change the world and Robert and jaws

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certainly did just that they tip the

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earth shifted a degree on its on its

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axis back in 1993 there's no question

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about it and this these things help

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shape careers and and people to like

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yourself but before that because we're

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gonna come right back to that point

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before that did you have a general

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interest in in gisa

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in ancient history just you know just

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like a regular consumer of Discovery

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Channel History Channel you know I was I

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I've always been sort of interested in

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history but nothing even close to what

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I'm doing now I mean Jimmy you have no

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idea the last two years it's a complete

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life change right it's it's crazy how

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did you how did the relationship start

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with with you know I like to say the

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boys you know the the whole you know

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jaws in shock and above all and Hank

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in you know Randall Carlson right the

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unbelievable group I had a panel I

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mentioned this to you before the show

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but a couple of years ago at contact in

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the desert I hosted an ancient Egypt

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panel ancient history panel with with

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Bauval Graham Hancock Robert Schoch all

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on the same panel those three guys and I

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think Linda yeah right right right all

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there at the same time and it was such

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an honor but how did you relationships

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start with them I went on a cruise last

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year heaven in heaven to earth cruise to

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Croatia mm-hmm and that's how I met

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Robert Duvall and Graham Hancock and it

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was a very nice setting guy private

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maybe 35 guests or so and it was during

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that cruise that Robert he was just

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coming out with origins of the Sphinx

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which by the way is a fantastic book

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without origins of the Sphinx I wouldn't

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be sitting here talking to you tonight

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yeah it's a great book I have it here

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yeah yeah it's amazing so he gave it to

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me and and then I you know I read the

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book I think it took maybe I don't know

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three days four days and I had the book

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read and something caught my attention

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in that book and so Robert and I we you

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know we sort of made a date for contact

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in the desert and so I told him about

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something that I wanted to talk to him

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about and we didn't have time to talk

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about it then and so we postponed it to

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the next meeting which just happened I

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think it was three weeks later in Sedona

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and that was cosmic origins meeting and

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and that's when it happened so we were

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sitting one morning over breakfast there

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was and that's also I've met Robert

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Schoch by the way and that was the first

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time I met him so we were sitting over

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breakfast and I I presented this and I

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think it didn't take more than a minute

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for me to get this out and and then

770
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:14,069
there was just this amazing moment you

771
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know when time slows down and you feel

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00:40:21,019 --> 00:40:19,109
like you in slow motion and you can hear

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every single beat of your heart

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sure

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and we were looking at each other and we

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just knew we have something and and that

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became them a heat paper that came out a

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couple of months later and that's kind

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of how things started now how were you

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able to this is a very serious question

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- and I'm sure you've thought about this

782
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how are you able to have them take you

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right I mean yeah like you have these

784
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credentials door or any of this how did

785
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you get them to take you serious well

786
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,130
let me just up the ante real quick you

787
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know Robert Bauval has sort of a rule

788
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you have to get it out in 30 seconds

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otherwise it can't be you know it's not

790
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it has to hit you over the head in the

791
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:22,660
first moment that's right that good and

792
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:25,090
I think you know this happened because I

793
00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:27,010
posted something on Facebook and you

794
00:41:30,330 --> 00:41:28,180
know Robert and I are Facebook friends

795
00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:30,340
you know with Robert Schoch Robert Wow

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and I think he saw it and it's somehow

797
00:41:36,270 --> 00:41:34,480
it caught his attention I mean you have

798
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to ask him that's probably the best way

799
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but I think from my perspective that's

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how it happened he saw it on Facebook

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and then so he had some time to mull

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over it and then when we met a contact

803
00:41:50,849 --> 00:41:47,830
in the desert you know he actually told

804
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:50,859
me he wanted to hear about this and we

805
00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:52,240
didn't have time it was a busy meeting

806
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:55,420
as you know you were there and so we

807
00:42:00,960 --> 00:41:58,330
postponed it and so it then it basically

808
00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:00,970
happened a few weeks later what is it

809
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:03,369
let's talk about some singular things

810
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here when we look at because all of them

811
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would not find this unique all of them

812
00:42:17,970 --> 00:42:14,050
have their own approach to looking at

813
00:42:21,420 --> 00:42:17,980
Giza some of it conflicts some of it

814
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:21,430
overlaps but all of it suggests that

815
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either we are being lied to their

816
00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:26,730
suppressed information or that

817
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:29,080
historians don't know anything anyway

818
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:33,130
right so yeah I mean but but that's so

819
00:42:39,249 --> 00:42:34,640
for each one of them let's

820
00:42:43,509 --> 00:42:39,259
with Bauval what's the one thing that he

821
00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:43,519
brings to the table for you he has yeah

822
00:42:48,999 --> 00:42:46,220
he has an eye for things that it's just

823
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:49,009
amazing he you know I mean this is

824
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:50,930
origins of the Sphinx for example I was

825
00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:53,390
reading that and he was talking about I

826
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:55,400
don't you know I I want people to read

827
00:42:58,569 --> 00:42:57,410
it because I can't do it justice talking

828
00:43:01,749 --> 00:42:58,579
about it but I'll just give you one

829
00:43:03,940 --> 00:43:01,759
little sample he was talking about the

830
00:43:08,799 --> 00:43:03,950
dream Stila between the paws of the

831
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:08,809
Sphinx and he that is and it is an

832
00:43:14,650 --> 00:43:11,650
important observation that basically is

833
00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:14,660
part of his argument that he develops in

834
00:43:20,529 --> 00:43:17,480
that in those chapters and I had looked

835
00:43:23,849 --> 00:43:20,539
at the Stila I don't know 10 15 20 times

836
00:43:26,410 --> 00:43:23,859
and that never never occurred to me and

837
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,420
you know this is the cut this is what he

838
00:43:31,329 --> 00:43:28,400
does he just has this ability to just

839
00:43:33,339 --> 00:43:31,339
grasp something and it's sometimes it's

840
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:33,349
really it's really simple and elegant

841
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:35,690
but nobody sees it it's just you know

842
00:43:39,339 --> 00:43:38,089
like you're ioan correlation theory he

843
00:43:41,799 --> 00:43:39,349
was camping out in the desert and he

844
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:41,809
looked up in the sky and he sees he sees

845
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:44,210
the belt stars and he says oh my god

846
00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:46,910
that's Giza mm-hmm you know and I mean

847
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:48,230
there must have been you know there's

848
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:50,450
thousands of years or let's say 2000

849
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:52,400
years of people have looked up in the

850
00:43:57,609 --> 00:43:54,650
Stars and nobody's ever thought about

851
00:43:59,890 --> 00:43:57,619
this and that's that's what he brings to

852
00:44:01,539 --> 00:43:59,900
the table he has that amazing you know

853
00:44:04,059 --> 00:44:01,549
brilliance about himself that he can

854
00:44:07,029 --> 00:44:04,069
just see something through all the the

855
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:07,039
web and the haze and he just nails it no

856
00:44:10,539 --> 00:44:09,170
that's the outsourcing what was the

857
00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:10,549
point that he brought out about the

858
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:15,430
dream Stella he he well there are two

859
00:44:23,130 --> 00:44:17,930
there are two sphinxes on the dream

860
00:44:26,259 --> 00:44:23,140
Stella and there are in front of each

861
00:44:28,660 --> 00:44:26,269
depiction is you know the image of

862
00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:28,670
Thutmose the fourth and you know

863
00:44:32,109 --> 00:44:30,140
Egyptologists they look at that and

864
00:44:34,289 --> 00:44:32,119
saying that's just art you know artistic

865
00:44:36,339 --> 00:44:34,299
symmetry that you show two sphinxes and

866
00:44:39,370 --> 00:44:36,349
Robert picked up something very

867
00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:39,380
interesting on the you know on the

868
00:44:44,289 --> 00:44:41,480
northern springs so on the right side

869
00:44:48,220 --> 00:44:44,299
basically he noticed that there is a

870
00:44:50,310 --> 00:44:48,230
libation icon so topmost

871
00:44:54,430 --> 00:44:50,320
actually you know sort of pouring water

872
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:54,440
into a vase and he made a connection

873
00:45:01,630 --> 00:44:57,170
between that and something on the

874
00:45:04,750 --> 00:45:01,640
dandera zodiac which is a depiction of

875
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:04,760
Aquarius happy that's right in ancient

876
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:08,570
Egyptian and and from there he launches

877
00:45:14,590 --> 00:45:12,140
this incredible argument and it's just

878
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:14,600
mind-boggling I I would have never been

879
00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:20,890
able to to figure it out but he did the

880
00:45:25,330 --> 00:45:23,630
I kind of want to stay in the dream

881
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:25,340
Stella for a second and then we're gonna

882
00:45:30,130 --> 00:45:27,560
move on the what I find interesting

883
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,140
about that well first off the second

884
00:45:36,970 --> 00:45:33,200
Sphinx but if we take what we do know

885
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:36,980
about the dream Stella and and what we

886
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:38,930
know about the Great Sphinx it's quite

887
00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:42,530
simply and this gets lost so much in the

888
00:45:50,349 --> 00:45:46,040
discussions but the Sphinx was buried

889
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:50,359
and not only was it was it buried but

890
00:45:58,420 --> 00:45:55,010
nobody for a couple of thousand had no

891
00:46:00,099 --> 00:45:58,430
clue what was underneath the sand they

892
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:00,109
just thought it was this head that was

893
00:46:04,210 --> 00:46:01,850
sticking up and they walked by it every

894
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:04,220
day and nobody thought about that's

895
00:46:10,990 --> 00:46:07,760
working right well yes if you just take

896
00:46:13,150 --> 00:46:11,000
that simple thought and and consider a

897
00:46:16,420 --> 00:46:13,160
second Sphinx and look at the Giza

898
00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:16,430
Plateau you don't have nobody has any

899
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:18,830
idea what's underneath that sand and the

900
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:21,290
possibility of a second Sphinx being

901
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:23,510
buried somewhere out there probably on

902
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:24,890
the west side of the Great Pyramid

903
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:29,690
that's my guess but nobody knows and

904
00:46:34,690 --> 00:46:32,210
it's it's that you can't say that

905
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:34,700
there's only one Sphinx you don't know

906
00:46:39,550 --> 00:46:36,890
you don't know that is fact you just

907
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:39,560
slightly don't and that's what I get out

908
00:46:44,290 --> 00:46:41,570
of the dream Stella and I've always had

909
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:44,300
that one singular thought you know

910
00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:46,310
there's a reason why there was a there's

911
00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:49,190
two sphinxes mentioned many times - it's

912
00:46:53,530 --> 00:46:52,190
not just a dream Stella but but we don't

913
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:53,540
know what's out there on the west side

914
00:47:00,670 --> 00:46:58,330
or for many square miles around the

915
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:00,680
pyramid complex where there could be a

916
00:47:03,490 --> 00:47:01,970
second Sphinx that only

917
00:47:05,890 --> 00:47:03,500
make sense right you're absolutely

918
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:05,900
correct there are actually depictions of

919
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:08,810
a double head it's things with you know

920
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:10,790
a common like a chimera a common body

921
00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:14,090
two heads and they depict sort of the

922
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:16,760
you know the underworld and you know one

923
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:20,030
entry is in is on the west side and the

924
00:47:25,150 --> 00:47:22,310
other entry is on the east side and that

925
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:25,160
is exactly consistent with what you're

926
00:47:28,750 --> 00:47:26,510
saying and so you know next time you

927
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:28,760
talk to Robert you should that's a great

928
00:47:34,359 --> 00:47:31,090
topic for a discussion of course Robert

929
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:34,369
is proposing that the second thing is

930
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,560
saying this in the sky so the dream

931
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:38,480
Stella is showing one Sphinx on the

932
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:41,119
ground and one is in the sky and the one

933
00:47:48,220 --> 00:47:44,050
in the sky is Leo and that's how he

934
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:48,230
develops the theme in origins you know

935
00:47:55,780 --> 00:47:52,310
that that the whole Giza Plateau is

936
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:55,790
basically a shrine to another time

937
00:48:01,000 --> 00:47:58,970
you know Zep tepi but the new the new

938
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:01,010
idea that comes on booking I don't want

939
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:02,450
to give it away because I want you guys

940
00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:07,280
to read it is that it ties in with you

941
00:48:13,089 --> 00:48:10,790
know dating the whole complex and so and

942
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:13,099
so it's crucial that that connection

943
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:14,930
that he makes that the second things on

944
00:48:20,740 --> 00:48:17,570
the dream Sheila is is maybe a sky's

945
00:48:22,930 --> 00:48:20,750
things now let's let's go to a shock and

946
00:48:26,290 --> 00:48:22,940
and jaws I love saying that - by the way

947
00:48:28,690 --> 00:48:26,300
shocking jaws with those - we can do it

948
00:48:33,089 --> 00:48:28,700
as a pair or individually what is it

949
00:48:35,050 --> 00:48:33,099
that shock brings to the table yeah so

950
00:48:37,630 --> 00:48:35,060
you know the thing is I think

951
00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:37,640
Egyptologists were sort of in their

952
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:39,820
comfort zone they used they were

953
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:41,630
archaeological evidence this is what

954
00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:45,250
they go by you know pot shards and and

955
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:48,460
inscriptions and then here comes a

956
00:48:55,089 --> 00:48:52,250
geologist and he confronts them with

957
00:48:57,849 --> 00:48:55,099
some hard physical data and they're not

958
00:49:00,040 --> 00:48:57,859
used to that and so it just turned

959
00:49:03,550 --> 00:49:00,050
everything upside down in the early 90s

960
00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:03,560
when and it's not just one sec it's not

961
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:06,230
one you know observation it's two

962
00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:08,060
independent observations that

963
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:10,040
corroborate each other so you have that

964
00:49:15,730 --> 00:49:14,960
the geology on you know what you see on

965
00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:15,740
the outside of the

966
00:49:19,810 --> 00:49:17,240
stones but then you also have the

967
00:49:22,330 --> 00:49:19,820
geology under this you know inside of

968
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:22,340
the stones under the surface the decay

969
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:24,710
and and these are completely different

970
00:49:30,010 --> 00:49:28,310
ways of dating stone decay and they

971
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:30,020
cooperate each other and this is just

972
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:33,200
that's amazing and it's difficult to you

973
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:36,290
know to slip out of that out of that

974
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:39,290
hold that that evidence and you know I

975
00:49:43,390 --> 00:49:41,450
mean there is a debate and I I don't

976
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:43,400
want to be even-handed about it I've

977
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:45,290
looked I'm looking at this as a layman

978
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:47,810
I'm not a geologist I'm just looking at

979
00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:50,510
it from you know like you and I are

980
00:49:53,590 --> 00:49:52,190
looking at the data and I think you know

981
00:49:57,250 --> 00:49:53,600
there is a good discussion to be had

982
00:49:59,140 --> 00:49:57,260
there's a debate to be had but at the

983
00:50:03,400 --> 00:49:59,150
end of the day I think it's a compelling

984
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:03,410
case for more studies and this is my my

985
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:06,530
beef with you know Egyptology that we

986
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:09,680
haven't been allowed to do that now and

987
00:50:15,490 --> 00:50:12,410
I don't know what the reasons are it we

988
00:50:17,470 --> 00:50:15,500
we debate it every day you know is it

989
00:50:19,810 --> 00:50:17,480
suppression is it that they don't know

990
00:50:22,780 --> 00:50:19,820
why is it that they're they're trying to

991
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:22,790
keep some of the fringe thoughts and

992
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,000
ideas from being investigated you know

993
00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:27,680
we can we can debate that you know this

994
00:50:32,380 --> 00:50:30,200
big conspiracy of the education system

995
00:50:35,470 --> 00:50:32,390
but whatever the powers-that-be and wait

996
00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:35,480
you know that can go on forever but sure

997
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:39,470
the facts are as we look at it today and

998
00:50:45,609 --> 00:50:41,510
the more that we learn about our own

999
00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:45,619
history is that the Sphinx is is much

1000
00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:48,080
much older the Giza complex is much much

1001
00:50:54,730 --> 00:50:52,460
older the the pyramids are bringing more

1002
00:50:57,730 --> 00:50:54,740
questions than answers every single day

1003
00:51:00,700 --> 00:50:57,740
and we're discovering stuff every day

1004
00:51:02,530 --> 00:51:00,710
and like I yeah that like I said in the

1005
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,540
opening statement and I really mean this

1006
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:04,400
the more that we learn the less that we

1007
00:51:09,070 --> 00:51:06,890
know and that's that's that's really the

1008
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:09,080
truth that's how it should be you know

1009
00:51:12,670 --> 00:51:10,880
it should be that's how science I mean I

1010
00:51:15,810 --> 00:51:12,680
you know Jimmy I come from a science

1011
00:51:17,950 --> 00:51:15,820
background where these type of

1012
00:51:20,349 --> 00:51:17,960
personality I mean you have personality

1013
00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:20,359
conflicts but it's just not not even

1014
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:23,060
close to being that way you know I mean

1015
00:51:27,849 --> 00:51:25,070
you just if you have a dispute okay so

1016
00:51:29,530 --> 00:51:27,859
you design an experiment and you try to

1017
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:29,540
settle the dispute it

1018
00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:31,070
it's complete you don't even think about

1019
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:34,430
arguing and quibbling over this opinion

1020
00:51:37,780 --> 00:51:35,750
and that mean you know you just sit down

1021
00:51:40,090 --> 00:51:37,790
and design an experiment to settle the

1022
00:51:41,770 --> 00:51:40,100
issue and in Egypt are in hit you know

1023
00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:41,780
in the ancient history in the Egyptology

1024
00:51:46,510 --> 00:51:44,390
I understand you can't do that easily

1025
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:46,520
you can't just do an experiment because

1026
00:51:53,470 --> 00:51:50,570
you basically dependent on evidence to

1027
00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:53,480
come out of the ground but my contention

1028
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:55,790
is that there is a lot of evidence out

1029
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:57,890
of the ground that just hasn't been

1030
00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:01,760
interpreted always you know in a sort of

1031
00:52:07,210 --> 00:52:05,150
even-handed way and because I'm not an

1032
00:52:11,260 --> 00:52:07,220
archaeologist I'd like you know I'm not

1033
00:52:13,150 --> 00:52:11,270
I didn't look at anything that I dug up

1034
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:13,160
I basically looked at evidence that's

1035
00:52:18,130 --> 00:52:15,050
been available for many many years

1036
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:18,140
and I see that the evidence is being

1037
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:20,510
interpreted with a certain slant and

1038
00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:22,250
when you take the slant out of the

1039
00:52:25,930 --> 00:52:24,260
equation you all of a sudden you start

1040
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:25,940
seeing other things that's right that's

1041
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:26,210
right

1042
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:28,730
and I'm gonna talk about John Anthony

1043
00:52:35,170 --> 00:52:33,530
West yes now and this is this is I'm not

1044
00:52:37,450 --> 00:52:35,180
an archaeologist either I'm not a

1045
00:52:39,610 --> 00:52:37,460
professional anything I'm a professional

1046
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:39,620
doofus that likes to ask questions

1047
00:52:44,890 --> 00:52:40,490
that's what I do

1048
00:52:48,190 --> 00:52:44,900
but I'll say this I mean look at the

1049
00:52:49,450 --> 00:52:48,200
Great Pyramid you just look at it you

1050
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:49,460
can look at all three but you look at

1051
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:52,490
the Great Pyramid and one thing and one

1052
00:52:58,540 --> 00:52:54,010
thing only comes to mind

1053
00:53:03,160 --> 00:52:58,550
ancient man as we have been presented

1054
00:53:06,220 --> 00:53:03,170
did not build that that's it that's the

1055
00:53:08,650 --> 00:53:06,230
only conclusion that you can come to if

1056
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:08,660
they want us to believe what ancient man

1057
00:53:17,110 --> 00:53:14,090
was like at 3000 BC that dude did not

1058
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:17,120
build that well you have the right

1059
00:53:22,180 --> 00:53:19,250
person coming to your show tomorrow that

1060
00:53:25,180 --> 00:53:22,190
is that is he's probably one of the most

1061
00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:25,190
forceful proponents of that yeah that's

1062
00:53:30,070 --> 00:53:27,830
that's it now now what what who what

1063
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:30,080
when where all of that we can we can do

1064
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:32,450
it and talk about that but don't tell me

1065
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:35,930
that ancient man at 3000 BC built that

1066
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:39,050
it that no no that's not that's not the

1067
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:40,910
game that we're playing here let's talk

1068
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:42,650
about John Anthony West since we're on

1069
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:43,520
this

1070
00:53:49,780 --> 00:53:45,710
what does for you what does he bring to

1071
00:53:54,670 --> 00:53:49,790
the table he well I actually had never

1072
00:53:56,620 --> 00:53:54,680
had you know and I'd never met him for a

1073
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:56,630
discussion I met him at at a conference

1074
00:54:01,410 --> 00:53:58,610
but we didn't have to I know I I wasn't

1075
00:54:06,910 --> 00:54:01,420
able to sit down and discuss with him

1076
00:54:08,890 --> 00:54:06,920
but he he's sort of the spiritual you

1077
00:54:13,660 --> 00:54:08,900
know Godfather of this entire movement

1078
00:54:15,220 --> 00:54:13,670
you know he he you know when I say

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Robert Bauval has a certain way of

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00:54:20,970 --> 00:54:17,420
seeing things and Robert Schoch has this

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00:54:23,140 --> 00:54:20,980
you know meticulous detailed approach

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00:54:24,940 --> 00:54:23,150
evidence-based you know they all have

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00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:24,950
their different styles and john auntie

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00:54:30,310 --> 00:54:27,530
west is sort of you know he has the

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00:54:32,860 --> 00:54:30,320
vision the long-term vision to interpret

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00:54:36,460 --> 00:54:32,870
everything through it just a completely

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00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:36,470
different lens and so they all bring

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00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:38,090
different things to the table and you

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00:54:41,710 --> 00:54:39,350
know it's very inspiring

1090
00:54:42,970 --> 00:54:41,720
I mean to me these are all I look at

1091
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:42,980
them they're all teachers they have

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00:54:48,250 --> 00:54:45,530
different ways of teaching and I can

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00:54:50,170 --> 00:54:48,260
learn from all of them now we're gonna

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00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:50,180
hit a break here so let's set up for

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00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:53,510
when we come back you guys sit down and

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00:55:02,170 --> 00:54:58,010
have breakfast and this idea comes

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00:55:08,550 --> 00:55:02,180
together for this paper tell us about

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00:55:12,370 --> 00:55:08,560
that yeah so the Walters there is the

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00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:12,380
heat paper which we published last year

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00:55:17,650 --> 00:55:15,050
and it's you know there's already

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00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:17,660
discussions going on I'm noticing it and

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00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:19,010
I just wanted to add a little bit of

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00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:22,730
context to that you know Robert Schoch

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00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:25,790
has he's taking care of the details you

1105
00:55:30,310 --> 00:55:27,890
know in his presentations and what I

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00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:30,320
want to do is just highlight a few

1107
00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:33,170
things to give a large perspective on

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00:55:39,820 --> 00:55:35,260
how that that paper came together sure

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00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:39,830
yeah go ahead okay let's know right so

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00:55:45,490 --> 00:55:42,140
the first thing I want to talk about is

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00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:45,500
a little bit about the history of this

1112
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:48,250
things and specifically two things about

1113
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:50,510
this things that are controversial the

1114
00:55:54,430 --> 00:55:52,190
first thing of course is the age and who

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00:55:57,150 --> 00:55:54,440
made it and the second thing is what's

1116
00:56:00,330 --> 00:55:57,160
underneath this things

1117
00:56:01,770 --> 00:56:00,340
and so so let me start with the second

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00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:01,780
one first so what's underneath this

1119
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:06,250
fangs the buzzword here is the Hall of

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00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:08,530
Records and when people you know hear

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00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:12,190
Hall of Records immediately you know the

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00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:15,960
camp divides into people that think that

1123
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:21,430
Edgar Cayce made a correct prediction

1124
00:56:24,990 --> 00:56:22,450
and then there's people that don't

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00:56:27,089 --> 00:56:25,000
accept it and they will reject the whole

1126
00:56:30,750 --> 00:56:27,099
thing and I want to sort of get past

1127
00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:30,760
that so you know Edgar Cayce basically

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00:56:35,609 --> 00:56:32,680
had three sessions when he predicted

1129
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:35,619
this and two of them in 1933 or one in

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00:56:44,250 --> 00:56:40,330
1941 and he described basically a path

1131
00:56:46,650 --> 00:56:44,260
to a place where one of three places in

1132
00:56:52,770 --> 00:56:46,660
the world where there were records from

1133
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:52,780
Atlantis and but even long before Edgar

1134
00:56:58,290 --> 00:56:55,390
Cayce there was there were there was a

1135
00:57:01,470 --> 00:56:58,300
rumor mill and it goes all the way from

1136
00:57:04,339 --> 00:57:01,480
through the Arab historians to the Roman

1137
00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:04,349
historians maybe maybe even Plato

1138
00:57:10,109 --> 00:57:08,020
where you where they they are saying

1139
00:57:13,410 --> 00:57:10,119
that there is something under the Sphinx

1140
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:13,420
and it's basically two types of stories

1141
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:15,310
either it's a grave somebody's buried

1142
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:18,609
under the Sphinx or it's or it's some

1143
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:22,030
kind of archive and so and what I just

1144
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:23,920
you know I just wanted to clarify that

1145
00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:28,570
our paper goes way way past all of this

1146
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:30,280
timeframe this timeframe that I just

1147
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:33,520
described is maybe 2,300 years long so

1148
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:36,400
we go back to Plato's time 300 BC let's

1149
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:39,810
say 360 BC when he published Timaeus and

1150
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:47,830
our paper goes another 2,200 years past

1151
00:57:53,490 --> 00:57:51,849
that - you know the old kingdom of Egypt

1152
00:57:57,329 --> 00:57:53,500
our evidence the evidence that we're

1153
00:58:00,510 --> 00:57:57,339
presenting is from that time 4,500 years

1154
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:00,520
ago it has nothing to do with this

1155
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:05,290
entire you know rumor mill about a Hall

1156
00:58:10,330 --> 00:58:07,930
of Records and by the way I think Edgar

1157
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:10,340
Cayce made some amazing predictions

1158
00:58:14,890 --> 00:58:13,130
and he may well be right about this but

1159
00:58:18,190 --> 00:58:14,900
I just wanted to clarify that in this

1160
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,200
paper we are not talking about any any

1161
00:58:22,330 --> 00:58:20,720
stories any evidence that were created

1162
00:58:23,790 --> 00:58:22,340
in the generated in the last twenty

1163
00:58:28,330 --> 00:58:23,800
three hundred years right

1164
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:28,340
yeah the okay let's take a break

1165
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:30,290
actually let's pick up right where

1166
00:58:35,020 --> 00:58:33,050
there's too much to go to in the next 60

1167
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:35,030
seconds let's take a break right here

1168
00:58:39,220 --> 00:58:36,770
and we'll just pick up right where we

1169
00:58:41,290 --> 00:58:39,230
left off our guest tonight my news saves

1170
00:58:43,570 --> 00:58:41,300
by day we're talking about the pipe

1171
00:58:46,330 --> 00:58:43,580
paper that was just published today

1172
00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:46,340
we'll cover that in him in in in a

1173
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:48,380
little bit we're discussing his first

1174
00:58:53,050 --> 00:58:50,690
paper that was published with Robert

1175
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:53,060
Schoch and Bob a football a mural chibi

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church this is fade to black night one

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[Applause]

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welcome back fade to black I'm Neil

1273
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:47,750
scimitar tonight one of our Egypt week

1274
01:03:53,010 --> 01:03:48,890
here on fade to black

1275
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:53,020
I guess tonight my news saves a day

1276
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:56,569
talking about okay we're talking about

1277
01:04:02,109 --> 01:03:59,119
two different papers here one that was

1278
01:04:04,750 --> 01:04:02,119
published two years ago and one that was

1279
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:04,760
here last year last year and then one

1280
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:07,039
that was published just today we'll get

1281
01:04:13,269 --> 01:04:10,640
to that in just a bit and we're we were

1282
01:04:16,420 --> 01:04:13,279
talking about two points on the Sphinx

1283
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:16,430
and I want to stay on the the dating

1284
01:04:27,250 --> 01:04:21,440
concept here when we when we look at the

1285
01:04:31,690 --> 01:04:27,260
year of 10,500 BC that this date has

1286
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:31,700
been it's been connected from a few

1287
01:04:38,529 --> 01:04:34,490
different points one of course the vols

1288
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:38,539
dating along with a Graham Hancock that

1289
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:41,930
deals with celestial alignments of a

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01:04:48,839 --> 01:04:47,089
lion and of course Leo at 10,500 BC

1291
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:48,849
right there right between the paws

1292
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:51,890
facing Leo and then on the backside Oh

1293
01:04:57,250 --> 01:04:54,609
Ryan perfectly aligns with the ground

1294
01:05:01,240 --> 01:04:57,260
okay so there's that by and then it just

1295
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:01,250
so happens of the dating of the rainfall

1296
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:05,839
and the erosion of what shocked and jaws

1297
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:07,849
brought forward and there they came up

1298
01:05:12,250 --> 01:05:10,160
with the same date that's but that's

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01:05:14,890 --> 01:05:12,260
pretty compelling evidence right there I

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:14,900
think it's angry I think it's older mice

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01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:18,890
all right so well and you know I was in

1302
01:05:26,859 --> 01:05:23,089
Egypt last week and I you know I stood

1303
01:05:30,250 --> 01:05:26,869
in front of the rock that that was

1304
01:05:33,339 --> 01:05:30,260
carved during conference time and I I

1305
01:05:35,260 --> 01:05:33,349
was by the Sphinx and it's it's like

1306
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:35,270
night and day that I mean it you can't

1307
01:05:42,010 --> 01:05:38,770
the erosion around the Sphinx and the

1308
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:42,020
erosion on the very same rock that is

1309
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:44,650
maybe a hundred meters to the south is

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01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:46,970
you can't compare it it's completely

1311
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:49,730
different so you I don't you know you

1312
01:05:55,059 --> 01:05:52,400
don't even need numbers you just look at

1313
01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:55,069
it and you just know it's not possible

1314
01:06:00,569 --> 01:05:55,720
it's

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01:06:02,670 --> 01:06:00,579
about that for a second you did just get

1316
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:02,680
back from Egypt what are you doing out

1317
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:06,910
there I you know I was actually doing a

1318
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:09,190
little bit of research you know which

1319
01:06:13,950 --> 01:06:10,690
means that I walk around in the plateau

1320
01:06:16,410 --> 01:06:13,960
and look for things that normally as a

1321
01:06:18,420 --> 01:06:16,420
tourist you wouldn't look for and just

1322
01:06:20,550 --> 01:06:18,430
to get some ideas take some pictures you

1323
01:06:22,530 --> 01:06:20,560
know so the kind of that for two weeks I

1324
01:06:24,589 --> 01:06:22,540
was I was up there maybe five times I

1325
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:24,599
went to the museum a couple of times and

1326
01:06:31,130 --> 01:06:27,400
you know that's how I get ideas look at

1327
01:06:33,390 --> 01:06:31,140
evidence and now you know over again and

1328
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:33,400
who knows maybe another paper will come

1329
01:06:39,780 --> 01:06:35,770
up in the next few months who do you use

1330
01:06:41,370 --> 01:06:39,790
for a guide when you're out there we did

1331
01:06:44,339 --> 01:06:41,380
have a guide a couple of times but

1332
01:06:46,550 --> 01:06:44,349
mostly I didn't need a guide a couple a

1333
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:46,560
couple of times I was with a man called

1334
01:06:50,579 --> 01:06:48,490
asam he's fantastic

1335
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:50,589
and he was set up by the touring company

1336
01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:53,680
that I used and you know we have great

1337
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:56,470
discussions he speaks great English and

1338
01:07:04,230 --> 01:06:59,680
and he was with us for five days we went

1339
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:04,240
to the shore we went to we went to the

1340
01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:06,910
mydoom pyramid and so you know a couple

1341
01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:09,400
of those trips he was with us now when

1342
01:07:16,410 --> 01:07:13,990
you stand at the Sphinx or no actually

1343
01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:16,420
I'm asking the question wrong when you

1344
01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:19,599
go to the different temples and and

1345
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:20,920
monuments out there in the different

1346
01:07:26,730 --> 01:07:23,920
complexes is there one that your spirit

1347
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:26,740
is spiritually connected to Pablo Sierra

1348
01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:29,680
really okay so yeah tell me tell me how

1349
01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:31,720
you came to that conclusion I I was

1350
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:34,089
asking the most peaceful place I've been

1351
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:38,950
to and well I mean is there did you have

1352
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:42,550
a revelation when he set foot I I felt

1353
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:44,530
you know there's two places in Egypt

1354
01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:46,210
that I had this feeling the first one

1355
01:07:51,089 --> 01:07:48,550
was last year when I went with Alan

1356
01:07:53,790 --> 01:07:51,099
Greene who you of course know Alan I

1357
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:53,800
went to Karnak and I went to Hot Chip

1358
01:08:00,660 --> 01:07:57,970
suits inner sanctum and I felt something

1359
01:08:04,020 --> 01:08:00,670
amazing looking at her reliefs and the

1360
01:08:05,849 --> 01:08:04,030
inscriptions it was incredible and I had

1361
01:08:09,390 --> 01:08:05,859
that same feeling this trip when I went

1362
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:09,400
up the causeway to see

1363
01:08:17,130 --> 01:08:14,170
the Pyramid of Sahara her complex is

1364
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:17,140
just ginormous I said I you know I

1365
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:18,850
haven't been to Egypt yet we're gonna go

1366
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:21,520
next year but when I see that in

1367
01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:23,710
pictures I always come to the same

1368
01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:29,160
conclusion how it's just it's

1369
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:32,470
ridiculously huge I mean it's just it's

1370
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:34,690
just beyond words isn't it all right

1371
01:08:39,210 --> 01:08:36,880
yeah it's a big complex that's right and

1372
01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:39,220
as you go up you know you feel like it

1373
01:08:44,099 --> 01:08:41,260
gets ever more private and when you get

1374
01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:44,109
all the way into our inner sanctuary you

1375
01:08:49,890 --> 01:08:46,780
it there's this relief with her you know

1376
01:08:52,289 --> 01:08:49,900
caressing Hathor the cotton in in the

1377
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:52,299
cow shape there's and it's just

1378
01:08:57,690 --> 01:08:56,170
something about it now you brought up

1379
01:09:02,160 --> 01:08:57,700
the dream Stella

1380
01:09:03,870 --> 01:09:02,170
important and there's a lot of things

1381
01:09:05,730 --> 01:09:03,880
that are there and it's and it's the

1382
01:09:07,710 --> 01:09:05,740
original and you can see it as right

1383
01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:07,720
there it's between the pause but I don't

1384
01:09:12,150 --> 01:09:09,220
think that's the important one I think

1385
01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:12,160
the inventory Stella is is where the the

1386
01:09:18,030 --> 01:09:15,430
crucial information is yes yeah the

1387
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:18,040
inventory saw so this is of course a big

1388
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:20,049
subject and one of these days when we

1389
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:21,850
have another chat then we'll talk about

1390
01:09:27,140 --> 01:09:23,710
the inventory so Robert Schoch and I

1391
01:09:30,990 --> 01:09:27,150
just published a paper basically

1392
01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:31,000
countering the current mainstream view

1393
01:09:37,140 --> 01:09:34,020
that it's uh it's historical fraud

1394
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:37,150
meaning that the Stila was produced in

1395
01:09:44,210 --> 01:09:39,910
the late period but the story on the

1396
01:09:47,579 --> 01:09:44,220
Stila is is not a true story but it is

1397
01:09:50,849 --> 01:09:47,589
it is basically the one explicit

1398
01:09:53,870 --> 01:09:50,859
evidence that exists that Khufu knew the

1399
01:09:56,190 --> 01:09:53,880
Sphinx and in fact he repaired it and

1400
01:09:59,250 --> 01:09:56,200
and it also says that he built his

1401
01:10:01,230 --> 01:09:59,260
pyramid so and Egyptologists are

1402
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:01,240
basically dismissing this whole thing as

1403
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:03,970
a way for the priests to attract

1404
01:10:08,580 --> 01:10:06,130
business to the Temple of Isis which is

1405
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:08,590
right by you know he Newton's pyramid

1406
01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:10,420
you know the queen pyramid that's the

1407
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:13,960
southernmost of the three and you know

1408
01:10:18,150 --> 01:10:15,520
the temple was built and the priests

1409
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,160
produced the Stila and AG poses are

1410
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:20,080
saying that this was a way to get

1411
01:10:26,460 --> 01:10:22,800
donations and we

1412
01:10:30,230 --> 01:10:26,470
thoroughly I mean it's a 60 page paper

1413
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:30,240
Jimmy I don't think there's ever been a

1414
01:10:37,710 --> 01:10:33,760
paper written in this much detail taking

1415
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:37,720
down the the current view on the Stila

1416
01:10:41,490 --> 01:10:39,820
and Robert and I published is just a few

1417
01:10:42,930 --> 01:10:41,500
months ago it hasn't gotten that much

1418
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:42,940
attention which I understand it's very

1419
01:10:48,270 --> 01:10:45,610
very detailed as a lot of language

1420
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:48,280
analysis in there and of course there is

1421
01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:51,610
going to be pushback and debate which I

1422
01:10:56,580 --> 01:10:54,820
completely expect but we wanted to you

1423
01:10:59,040 --> 01:10:56,590
know we wanted to start a different type

1424
01:11:01,920 --> 01:10:59,050
of discussion we don't want to have you

1425
01:11:04,230 --> 01:11:01,930
know the field just dismiss the Stila as

1426
01:11:05,820 --> 01:11:04,240
fraud and when there's a lot of holes in

1427
01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:05,830
that argument and we point out all those

1428
01:11:13,230 --> 01:11:08,920
holes in this paper now the inventory

1429
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:13,240
Stella it's my understanding that it's

1430
01:11:18,270 --> 01:11:15,310
not even on public display it's locked

1431
01:11:19,710 --> 01:11:18,280
up right no no it is and but you know

1432
01:11:22,380 --> 01:11:19,720
it's funny you say that I couldn't find

1433
01:11:24,330 --> 01:11:22,390
it in the museum so I actually I went to

1434
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:24,340
one of the guards and believe it or not

1435
01:11:29,310 --> 01:11:26,290
he introduced me to the director of the

1436
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:29,320
museum which I wasn't asking for that

1437
01:11:34,020 --> 01:11:31,210
but okay here he is a very nice

1438
01:11:36,030 --> 01:11:34,030
gentleman and so he he didn't quite know

1439
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:36,040
in the beginning and because he didn't I

1440
01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:37,450
don't think he understood the English

1441
01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:40,390
word inventory Stella but he eventually

1442
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:42,870
we found it and he was actually really

1443
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:45,730
surprised when I told him what it says

1444
01:11:53,580 --> 01:11:49,810
and I that doesn't mean that I convinced

1445
01:11:56,340 --> 01:11:53,590
him but he didn't know that the text

1446
01:12:00,570 --> 01:11:56,350
says that gufu nudists things well he

1447
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:00,580
also I don't know if I misheard you but

1448
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:04,320
the inventory Stella also says that

1449
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:07,450
Khufu repaired the Sphinx but he also

1450
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:09,850
repaired the pyramid I don't think he

1451
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:12,370
says that he built the pyramid I think

1452
01:12:16,590 --> 01:12:14,170
he says that he was there for repairs

1453
01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:16,600
well this is okay so this gets into very

1454
01:12:23,610 --> 01:12:21,790
detailed language analysis and I we

1455
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:23,620
should probably reserve this for another

1456
01:12:28,530 --> 01:12:25,210
talk to me but just to give you the

1457
01:12:31,230 --> 01:12:28,540
short answer if you look at the text the

1458
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:31,240
specific text that here glyphic all the

1459
01:12:35,489 --> 01:12:33,550
hero glyphic expression for building

1460
01:12:39,029 --> 01:12:35,499
versus rebuilding okay

1461
01:12:42,029 --> 01:12:39,039
so rebuilding you have to add a symbol

1462
01:12:43,410 --> 01:12:42,039
which is the foot of a donkey believe it

1463
01:12:46,890 --> 01:12:43,420
or not I know that's kind of funny but

1464
01:12:51,689 --> 01:12:46,900
the foot of a donkey means has the

1465
01:12:54,899 --> 01:12:51,699
phonetic value of Oh hem and om means to

1466
01:12:56,839 --> 01:12:54,909
again or repeat so when you when you use

1467
01:13:00,299 --> 01:12:56,849
the word build and then you add that

1468
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:00,309
symbol behind it that means rebuilding

1469
01:13:04,109 --> 01:13:03,610
okay counted so so that is one part of

1470
01:13:06,989 --> 01:13:04,119
the Stella

1471
01:13:09,810 --> 01:13:06,999
which which pertains to the Temple of

1472
01:13:12,419 --> 01:13:09,820
Isis so khufu repairs the Temple of Isis

1473
01:13:14,879 --> 01:13:12,429
but the other part of the Stella where

1474
01:13:18,029 --> 01:13:14,889
he talks about building his pyramid it

1475
01:13:19,979 --> 01:13:18,039
only uses the verb build you so you

1476
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:19,989
don't have that modification behind it

1477
01:13:25,259 --> 01:13:22,719
and so based on that I would say we do

1478
01:13:28,290 --> 01:13:25,269
have a positive control in the same text

1479
01:13:29,879 --> 01:13:28,300
that tells us when it's supposed to mean

1480
01:13:32,279 --> 01:13:29,889
rebuilding and when it's supposed to be

1481
01:13:34,259 --> 01:13:32,289
building so based on that I would have

1482
01:13:37,169 --> 01:13:34,269
to conclude that if I take it at face

1483
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:37,179
value that Khufu built a pyramid but it

1484
01:13:45,290 --> 01:13:39,760
doesn't mean necessary I you know there

1485
01:13:49,229 --> 01:13:45,300
is a there's still a way to basically

1486
01:13:52,109 --> 01:13:49,239
combine the two fields so I think there

1487
01:13:55,020 --> 01:13:52,119
is an a prehistoric there was a

1488
01:13:57,779 --> 01:13:55,030
prehistoric site and Khufu built on top

1489
01:14:00,270 --> 01:13:57,789
of it now where you draw the line okay

1490
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:00,280
so you can debate that but I think you

1491
01:14:04,109 --> 01:14:02,409
are right those monuments there was

1492
01:14:06,450 --> 01:14:04,119
something there and by the way it Robert

1493
01:14:07,709 --> 01:14:06,460
Bauval of course has also entertained

1494
01:14:10,109 --> 01:14:07,719
that that there was something there

1495
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:10,119
before which aligned with Zep tepi the

1496
01:14:15,689 --> 01:14:12,729
three the three positions and then came

1497
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:15,699
the old kingdom Kings and they built

1498
01:14:19,049 --> 01:14:17,530
their pyramids on it and they basically

1499
01:14:20,250 --> 01:14:19,059
just built right on top of those

1500
01:14:22,830 --> 01:14:20,260
structures and which is why the

1501
01:14:24,660 --> 01:14:22,840
orientation is locked in the same way

1502
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:24,670
now you just said something that we

1503
01:14:29,819 --> 01:14:27,760
don't mention often on this show and it

1504
01:14:32,939 --> 01:14:29,829
needs to be not only mention but

1505
01:14:36,089 --> 01:14:32,949
clarified you just said Zep tepi but

1506
01:14:39,589 --> 01:14:36,099
tell everybody says such an important

1507
01:14:42,450 --> 01:14:39,599
term in Egyptology what is empty

1508
01:14:45,089 --> 01:14:42,460
Zep tepi you know what Zep tepi would be

1509
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:45,099
sort of the biblical equivalent of

1510
01:14:49,109 --> 01:14:47,170
Genesis so it's the it's the first time

1511
01:14:52,250 --> 01:14:49,119
when the gods

1512
01:14:54,619 --> 01:14:52,260
ruled Egypt and it was a time of Harmony

1513
01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:54,629
and but then there was also a conflict

1514
01:15:02,790 --> 01:14:58,449
which happened in year 363 according to

1515
01:15:04,919 --> 01:15:02,800
the @foo texts and your enduring and in

1516
01:15:07,109 --> 01:15:04,929
that year there was a battle an epic

1517
01:15:11,639 --> 01:15:07,119
battle between good and evil Horus and

1518
01:15:14,339 --> 01:15:11,649
Seth and Horus wins the battle and all

1519
01:15:16,049 --> 01:15:14,349
of this is also very nicely presented by

1520
01:15:17,699 --> 01:15:16,059
Robert Bauval and origins of the Sphinx

1521
01:15:21,449 --> 01:15:17,709
it's beautiful I mean he goes through

1522
01:15:25,619 --> 01:15:21,459
all the the myth and how it may have

1523
01:15:27,659 --> 01:15:25,629
been enshrined at the Giza Plateau so

1524
01:15:30,389 --> 01:15:27,669
but that's what Zep tepi is it's the

1525
01:15:33,029 --> 01:15:30,399
first time when the gods ruled and then

1526
01:15:36,179 --> 01:15:33,039
they passed their world on to man so

1527
01:15:38,549 --> 01:15:36,189
when and in the ed food tax and this is

1528
01:15:40,290 --> 01:15:38,559
for the audience but we it really needs

1529
01:15:45,959 --> 01:15:40,300
to be clarified in the end food tax they

1530
01:15:48,089 --> 01:15:45,969
mentioned septet is pushing the dating

1531
01:15:50,189 --> 01:15:48,099
back you know this is now the time of

1532
01:15:52,679 --> 01:15:50,199
the gods so that's even the time before

1533
01:15:55,799 --> 01:15:52,689
the gods right it's it's the first day

1534
01:16:00,119 --> 01:15:55,809
it's the first of everything now how

1535
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:00,129
long of a period of time are we actually

1536
01:16:04,770 --> 01:16:02,110
talking about here we don't know it

1537
01:16:06,810 --> 01:16:04,780
could be thousands of years it could be

1538
01:16:09,179 --> 01:16:06,820
10,000 years it could be 20,000 years

1539
01:16:12,989 --> 01:16:09,189
could be 50,000 years but I certainly

1540
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:12,999
make that reference there and this is

1541
01:16:19,290 --> 01:16:16,209
all in clearly stated in the ed food

1542
01:16:23,549 --> 01:16:19,300
building text yeah and I think I think

1543
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:23,559
the reason why this is dated textually

1544
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:26,530
dated to 10,000 let's say 500 BCE has to

1545
01:16:31,619 --> 01:16:28,209
do with the flood because there is a

1546
01:16:34,109 --> 01:16:31,629
mention of a flood and so based on that

1547
01:16:36,509 --> 01:16:34,119
you know and then combined with us the

1548
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:36,519
astronomy and the geology I think all of

1549
01:16:44,089 --> 01:16:39,129
this converges to this date you know

1550
01:16:45,799 --> 01:16:44,099
10,000 or 10,500 BC so maybe that's when

1551
01:16:50,689 --> 01:16:45,809
Zep tepi

1552
01:16:53,429 --> 01:16:50,699
was a why and I find it interesting that

1553
01:16:56,330 --> 01:16:53,439
pretty much I think every ancient

1554
01:17:00,060 --> 01:16:56,340
culture on this planet has a flood myth

1555
01:17:02,589 --> 01:17:00,070
everybody's got one and Egyptologists

1556
01:17:04,450 --> 01:17:02,599
would always say well yeah except for

1557
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:04,460
Egypt we don't have a flood myth and

1558
01:17:09,819 --> 01:17:07,489
they couldn't be further from the truth

1559
01:17:13,569 --> 01:17:09,829
and it's right there in the ad fou

1560
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:13,579
building text and it's it states that

1561
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:18,650
there was a great flood ads a poppy had

1562
01:17:22,180 --> 01:17:20,510
to be even and you know what Jimmy

1563
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:22,190
there's even a story from the Middle

1564
01:17:27,149 --> 01:17:24,650
Kingdom it's it's it's it's a fabulous

1565
01:17:29,620 --> 01:17:27,159
it's a it's called a shipwrecked sailor

1566
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:29,630
it was written in the Middle Kingdom and

1567
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:32,239
it's really quickly it's just a story of

1568
01:17:38,109 --> 01:17:34,159
a sailor got stranded on a lonely island

1569
01:17:40,060 --> 01:17:38,119
and there's a snake and the snake turns

1570
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:40,070
out to be a friendly snake and the snake

1571
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:43,250
actually describes an event that wiped

1572
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:46,130
out its family and this event was a

1573
01:17:54,879 --> 01:17:50,570
falling star now how is it that can you

1574
01:17:57,459 --> 01:17:54,889
read hieroglyphics I am yes I'm big

1575
01:17:58,930 --> 01:17:57,469
maybe let's say early intermediate at

1576
01:18:00,910 --> 01:17:58,940
this point well you're you're much

1577
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:00,920
better than I am and I like the way that

1578
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:03,530
you you know you bring this up the the

1579
01:18:08,410 --> 01:18:05,679
the the foot of a donkey and

1580
01:18:11,310 --> 01:18:08,420
phonetically verses a written version of

1581
01:18:14,530 --> 01:18:11,320
the text how good are you and with it

1582
01:18:17,890 --> 01:18:14,540
well I think at this point I can maybe

1583
01:18:22,209 --> 01:18:17,900
walk up to Estella and sort of get the

1584
01:18:24,370 --> 01:18:22,219
general idea and the next stage is you

1585
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:24,380
know to be able to read a wisdom text

1586
01:18:28,629 --> 01:18:26,449
something like that and I'm still far

1587
01:18:30,729 --> 01:18:28,639
away from that so but at least I have

1588
01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:30,739
all the I have all the pieces in place

1589
01:18:34,930 --> 01:18:32,510
that I can sit down with the text and

1590
01:18:37,950 --> 01:18:34,940
with a lot of time I could figure it out

1591
01:18:40,629 --> 01:18:37,960
probably how did the how did

1592
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:40,639
hieroglyphics evolve you know versus

1593
01:18:46,419 --> 01:18:42,650
what you know what has been founded

1594
01:18:50,430 --> 01:18:46,429
Abydos you know at 3000 BC going back to

1595
01:18:53,530 --> 01:18:50,440
my days you know and and armour through

1596
01:18:55,990 --> 01:18:53,540
you know to Cleopatra's time how did how

1597
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:56,000
did it evolve right right that's a great

1598
01:19:02,830 --> 01:18:57,770
question which actually pertains to our

1599
01:19:04,450 --> 01:19:02,840
paper the me paper so there's it did

1600
01:19:09,089 --> 01:19:04,460
this is by the way Wolfgang Elk is a

1601
01:19:11,979 --> 01:19:09,099
german pathologist who is fabulous he

1602
01:19:14,610 --> 01:19:11,989
pieced this together you know the first

1603
01:19:17,730 --> 01:19:14,620
three four hundred years of

1604
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:17,740
of dynastic Egypt so basically you had

1605
01:19:22,110 --> 01:19:20,650
to you had to language centers one was

1606
01:19:26,370 --> 01:19:22,120
in southern Egypt one was in northern

1607
01:19:28,380 --> 01:19:26,380
Egypt the southern Egyptian language the

1608
01:19:31,890 --> 01:19:28,390
very first documented evidence comes

1609
01:19:33,690 --> 01:19:31,900
from tomb you J which is scorpion and

1610
01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:33,700
that's where the German archaeological

1611
01:19:38,820 --> 01:19:35,830
Institute found these little tablets and

1612
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:38,830
they realized this is Gunther Dreyer you

1613
01:19:42,570 --> 01:19:40,330
know who pieced this together he said

1614
01:19:44,730 --> 01:19:42,580
this is a phonetic script so what you

1615
01:19:46,380 --> 01:19:44,740
hear is what it means not what you see

1616
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:46,390
but what you're here is what it means

1617
01:19:54,330 --> 01:19:49,810
just like our alphabet and then contrast

1618
01:19:57,930 --> 01:19:54,340
that with with the remnants of a script

1619
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:57,940
that was in the early Egyptian writings

1620
01:20:03,360 --> 01:19:59,440
which is you know we just have few no

1621
01:20:05,460 --> 01:20:03,370
little tags and labels and those symbols

1622
01:20:07,620 --> 01:20:05,470
which came from northern Egypt and that

1623
01:20:10,590 --> 01:20:07,630
was maybe centered around Bhutto so

1624
01:20:12,180 --> 01:20:10,600
Bhutto was a prehistoric trading hub you

1625
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:12,190
know they were trading with southern

1626
01:20:16,290 --> 01:20:13,840
Egypt they were probably trading with

1627
01:20:19,290 --> 01:20:16,300
with the Levant you know maybe even with

1628
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:19,300
Mesopotamia and so they were using a

1629
01:20:24,570 --> 01:20:21,010
different script and the main difference

1630
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:24,580
is that that script was a visual script

1631
01:20:31,050 --> 01:20:26,890
there was pictographs so use what you

1632
01:20:35,190 --> 01:20:31,060
see is what it means and when you know

1633
01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:35,200
Narmer took conquered northern Egypt at

1634
01:20:40,770 --> 01:20:36,790
least that's you know the current model

1635
01:20:42,570 --> 01:20:40,780
that there was a conquest they adopted

1636
01:20:45,450 --> 01:20:42,580
that script and then they gradually

1637
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:45,460
phased it out so over the First's you

1638
01:20:49,410 --> 01:20:47,440
know five pharaohs grant you still have

1639
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:49,420
initially you have these you have both

1640
01:20:53,820 --> 01:20:51,130
scripts you have both types of symbols

1641
01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:53,830
and then the pictographs gradually get

1642
01:20:59,760 --> 01:20:55,720
phased out but here's that here's the

1643
01:21:01,740 --> 01:20:59,770
robbed the symbol that we are describing

1644
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:01,750
the may eat paper the lioness with the

1645
01:21:08,460 --> 01:21:05,290
with the bent rod that is one of those

1646
01:21:10,290 --> 01:21:08,470
pictographic scripts from Bhutto most

1647
01:21:14,670 --> 01:21:10,300
likely and this is small crying helps

1648
01:21:16,650 --> 01:21:14,680
also conclusion and it is not a phonetic

1649
01:21:19,050 --> 01:21:16,660
symbol it is a picture of symbols so

1650
01:21:23,610 --> 01:21:19,060
what you see is what you get the meaning

1651
01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:23,620
of that symbol most likely is is an

1652
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:27,070
object somehow related to this lioness

1653
01:21:30,660 --> 01:21:28,210
so this

1654
01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:30,670
a key concept that I wanted to bring out

1655
01:21:36,330 --> 01:21:33,670
tonight because that you know we didn't

1656
01:21:38,490 --> 01:21:36,340
have we didn't have the paper we had

1657
01:21:41,220 --> 01:21:38,500
some space restrictions so I wasn't able

1658
01:21:42,810 --> 01:21:41,230
to you know at that would paper would

1659
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:42,820
have gotten too long so but I wanted to

1660
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:44,170
make sure I explained that yeah let's

1661
01:21:50,190 --> 01:21:46,570
say let's clarify that because when I

1662
01:21:54,110 --> 01:21:50,200
look at and what Manu is is talking

1663
01:21:58,590 --> 01:21:54,120
about specifically is in the trading

1664
01:22:01,040 --> 01:21:58,600
that they were doing at 3000 BC 2900 BC

1665
01:22:07,470 --> 01:22:01,050
the you know the first second dynasty

1666
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:07,480
they would have little tabs on ivory and

1667
01:22:13,140 --> 01:22:11,010
at other but that would they have

1668
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:13,150
information on it it was the first

1669
01:22:18,690 --> 01:22:15,370
written language it might even actually

1670
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:18,700
predate Mesopotamia and and some say

1671
01:22:24,959 --> 01:22:22,719
that kuna form was first but anyway that

1672
01:22:27,900 --> 01:22:24,969
yeah that's exactly right so a

1673
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:27,910
Mesopotamian script before before it was

1674
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,730
you know the cuneiform it they also had

1675
01:22:35,330 --> 01:22:32,800
a pictographic script and you're

1676
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:35,340
absolutely correct it is possible that

1677
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:38,880
with you know cultural exchange that the

1678
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:41,890
butyl script the northern Egypt script

1679
01:22:47,610 --> 01:22:45,370
may have me it may have come from the

1680
01:22:49,770 --> 01:22:47,620
early Mesopotamian script and also vice

1681
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:49,780
versa we don't that's right there is it

1682
01:22:53,310 --> 01:22:51,310
there is a connection there is a

1683
01:22:55,500 --> 01:22:53,320
cultural there's a linguistic connection

1684
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:55,510
potentially yes and so they would name

1685
01:23:01,170 --> 01:22:57,610
the year now this is what I find

1686
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:01,180
interesting so they would name the year

1687
01:23:04,260 --> 01:23:02,800
they didn't have a number for the year

1688
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:04,270
right they didn't know that they were at

1689
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:09,010
3,000 BC but they would name the year

1690
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:14,410
for whatever it is Manu Manu had a baby

1691
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:16,600
so they called it my new had a baby year

1692
01:23:21,810 --> 01:23:19,120
whatever it is and that would put a

1693
01:23:24,570 --> 01:23:21,820
picture of that on these tabs for

1694
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:24,580
taxation for delivery for a lot of

1695
01:23:30,300 --> 01:23:28,090
different reasons but we are able to

1696
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:30,310
accurately date some of these years

1697
01:23:35,970 --> 01:23:32,290
because they would name the years but

1698
01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:35,980
also I think and when I look at these

1699
01:23:42,090 --> 01:23:39,910
specific tabs and how they marked it it

1700
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:42,100
like it was incorporated into the

1701
01:23:49,740 --> 01:23:44,650
hieroglyphics that we we actually know

1702
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:49,750
and love and also there's a king you

1703
01:23:53,310 --> 01:23:51,730
know there's the king name the name of

1704
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:53,320
the king is shown on that that's how we

1705
01:23:59,610 --> 01:23:56,410
can date it right right right right I

1706
01:24:02,790 --> 01:23:59,620
find it fascinating and and to think

1707
01:24:04,980 --> 01:24:02,800
also about how long ago that we're

1708
01:24:07,290 --> 01:24:04,990
talking about it you know they were

1709
01:24:11,010 --> 01:24:07,300
talking about a very long time but they

1710
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:11,020
were actually naming years and how

1711
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:14,290
important it was to know what a year was

1712
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:16,570
in length and then you would name that

1713
01:24:20,850 --> 01:24:18,700
year and name the next year and the next

1714
01:24:23,190 --> 01:24:20,860
year and they were able to get an

1715
01:24:25,950 --> 01:24:23,200
accounting system together and and and

1716
01:24:28,380 --> 01:24:25,960
and it's it's it's a mind-blowing thing

1717
01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:28,390
but I think that that those pictograms

1718
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:30,820
that they use for that written language

1719
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:33,370
I think evolved in partially into

1720
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:34,960
hieroglyphics I think they ended up

1721
01:24:40,440 --> 01:24:37,570
merging yeah that's right they were

1722
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:40,450
using initially you know let's say under

1723
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:43,290
the first king Narmer and then came

1724
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:47,350
hor-aha so under hor-aha and his son jer

1725
01:24:54,510 --> 01:24:50,170
and then jet you know during that early

1726
01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:54,520
phase first dynasty there the the butyl

1727
01:24:58,500 --> 01:24:56,710
symbols were side by side with the

1728
01:25:00,570 --> 01:24:58,510
southern Egyptian symbols you know that

1729
01:25:03,780 --> 01:25:00,580
like the types of symbols discovered in

1730
01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:03,790
scorpions tomb and then gradually as

1731
01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:07,270
then Dennis the main king when there was

1732
01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:10,450
must have been some kind of reform a

1733
01:25:14,970 --> 01:25:12,310
language reform because all of a sudden

1734
01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:14,980
a lot of these butyl scripts disappear

1735
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:19,270
except for a few and one of them is the

1736
01:25:26,730 --> 01:25:22,330
the lioness with the bent rod now let's

1737
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,740
why is that important because it has to

1738
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:28,960
do with how the state developed so we

1739
01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:30,880
saw we've just talked about language so

1740
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:33,580
we also have to talk about economics and

1741
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:36,880
real quickly and then and then the Apter

1742
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:39,250
burocratic apparatus so what happened in

1743
01:25:42,510 --> 01:25:40,650
the beginning is you had a king

1744
01:25:45,630 --> 01:25:42,520
basically traveling the nation

1745
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:45,640
collecting his taxes that was the very

1746
01:25:51,090 --> 01:25:48,130
early phase and then what happened is

1747
01:25:53,150 --> 01:25:51,100
the king started getting deliveries from

1748
01:25:54,830 --> 01:25:53,160
from the regions and

1749
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:54,840
that's why you need an accounting system

1750
01:26:01,700 --> 01:25:58,400
and so in this very early phase you had

1751
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:01,710
as what Egyptologists call ascribes tent

1752
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:04,410
and that tent of course is shown on some

1753
01:26:08,990 --> 01:26:06,570
of these seals and we show that in the

1754
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:09,000
paper so you had a tent and that tent

1755
01:26:12,890 --> 01:26:10,890
was described to end and in front of the

1756
01:26:14,660 --> 01:26:12,900
tent you had the lioness with the bent

1757
01:26:18,020 --> 01:26:14,670
rod so there's some association between

1758
01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:18,030
the lioness the symbol and describes

1759
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:20,100
that were basically doing the accounting

1760
01:26:27,530 --> 01:26:23,520
for the early state apparatus now what

1761
01:26:28,850 --> 01:26:27,540
is the dating of this lioness well she

1762
01:26:31,490 --> 01:26:28,860
goes all the way back to an armored

1763
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:31,500
Jimmy you can you it's not an armored

1764
01:26:37,220 --> 01:26:33,570
sealing you sure you can already see her

1765
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:37,230
right so that would be if I'm doing math

1766
01:26:42,620 --> 01:26:40,410
here if we go with traditional dating

1767
01:26:44,660 --> 01:26:42,630
which I don't buy but if we go with

1768
01:26:50,510 --> 01:26:44,670
traditional dating and we look at 2650

1769
01:26:52,490 --> 01:26:50,520
BC for for Khufu we're talking four

1770
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:52,500
hundred years am i guessing this

1771
01:26:56,210 --> 01:26:54,330
correctly yeah you're right on the money

1772
01:26:59,360 --> 01:26:56,220
yeah cool for maybe twenty five fifty

1773
01:27:02,420 --> 01:26:59,370
something like that right and 2670 would

1774
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:02,430
be Djoser and then but an armored let's

1775
01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:04,050
say three thousand round number let's

1776
01:27:12,710 --> 01:27:07,520
say three thousand BC right so yeah 400

1777
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:12,720
450 years yep yes weld that that doesn't

1778
01:27:20,510 --> 01:27:15,650
that throw the Khufu ID out the window

1779
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:20,520
in terms of this the first reference to

1780
01:27:25,610 --> 01:27:23,490
a line in the Sphinx yes yeah yeah

1781
01:27:27,620 --> 01:27:25,620
that's what we're saying so we are so

1782
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:27,630
you know we see the lioness we see the

1783
01:27:33,470 --> 01:27:30,330
bent rod and we know the name because on

1784
01:27:36,860 --> 01:27:33,480
on this gorgeous Tila that this is a

1785
01:27:40,220 --> 01:27:36,870
Fourth Dynasty Stila weapon no fret and

1786
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:40,230
he was probably from the looks of it sm

1787
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:43,920
priest a shaman shaman priest and on his

1788
01:27:49,670 --> 01:27:46,890
Stila which is in the west field you see

1789
01:27:51,710 --> 01:27:49,680
actually the name of the lioness and her

1790
01:27:55,490 --> 01:27:51,720
name is Mae heat and she's you know

1791
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:55,500
right there very close to the dual title

1792
01:27:59,900 --> 01:27:58,170
which is what we're saying is the you

1793
01:28:02,330 --> 01:27:59,910
know the chief scribe and the the chief

1794
01:28:05,390 --> 01:28:02,340
archivist now we started off this

1795
01:28:05,660 --> 01:28:05,400
conversation I like where we just ended

1796
01:28:08,689 --> 01:28:05,670
but

1797
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:08,699
we started off talking about what was

1798
01:28:13,970 --> 01:28:10,110
underneath the Sphinx and what was

1799
01:28:16,820 --> 01:28:13,980
underneath the Pau white so on that same

1800
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:16,830
Stila it's you know it's too bad we're

1801
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:18,719
on the radio we can't see it but of

1802
01:28:23,390 --> 01:28:22,110
course it's easy to look up it so I need

1803
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:23,400
to just preface this real quick with

1804
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:25,650
something Egyptian there is more than a

1805
01:28:31,930 --> 01:28:28,560
hundred bureaucratic titles in an

1806
01:28:36,169 --> 01:28:31,940
ancient Egypt Burke Roddick provision

1807
01:28:38,750 --> 01:28:36,179
core titles academic titles and so what

1808
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:38,760
the Egyptians did when they when they

1809
01:28:43,250 --> 01:28:40,080
you know basically inscribed their

1810
01:28:45,979 --> 01:28:43,260
resume into the tombs they they grouped

1811
01:28:47,209 --> 01:28:45,989
these titles into these categories kind

1812
01:28:48,860 --> 01:28:47,219
of like a resume you have different

1813
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:48,870
categories they did exactly the same

1814
01:28:53,689 --> 01:28:50,730
thing they didn't just you know list

1815
01:28:55,970 --> 01:28:53,699
these titles have hazard Li so so let's

1816
01:28:58,490 --> 01:28:55,980
go back to the stella weapon no fret on

1817
01:29:01,400 --> 01:28:58,500
the stella from no fret there is a very

1818
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:01,410
nicely demarcated two column where we

1819
01:29:05,870 --> 01:29:03,360
have the dual title which basically says

1820
01:29:08,030 --> 01:29:05,880
that weapon or Fred was the chief scribe

1821
01:29:10,610 --> 01:29:08,040
and the chief of this what we're saying

1822
01:29:14,209 --> 01:29:10,620
the archive of meat and right underneath

1823
01:29:16,220 --> 01:29:14,219
is a line that I think should be the

1824
01:29:18,500 --> 01:29:16,230
banner slogan for the alternative

1825
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:18,510
history movement because it is the

1826
01:29:24,860 --> 01:29:21,530
closest I think we're ever gonna get to

1827
01:29:27,470 --> 01:29:24,870
proof that there was a library and so

1828
01:29:33,950 --> 01:29:27,480
what this says it says him

1829
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:33,960
nitesh a shot vented nestled a measure

1830
01:29:38,270 --> 01:29:36,810
so what this basically says is that you

1831
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:38,280
have the chief scribe the chief

1832
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:42,480
archivist of what of the Seshat royal

1833
01:29:47,570 --> 01:29:46,110
library of knowledge that that's kind of

1834
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:47,580
loosely how you can translate it so

1835
01:29:52,209 --> 01:29:49,410
there you have it it's all in one nice

1836
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:52,219
column you have an association between

1837
01:29:59,209 --> 01:29:55,290
scribing and between scribing between

1838
01:30:00,740 --> 01:29:59,219
arc archiving and between a library it

1839
01:30:02,990 --> 01:30:00,750
was a royal library and it was

1840
01:30:06,380 --> 01:30:03,000
associated with the goddesses shot which

1841
01:30:08,300 --> 01:30:06,390
of course you know is she was you know

1842
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,310
associated with writing and with

1843
01:30:12,770 --> 01:30:10,560
astronomy let's take a break right here

1844
01:30:15,450 --> 01:30:12,780
this is an absolutely fascinating

1845
01:30:18,180 --> 01:30:15,460
conversation our guest tonight

1846
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:18,190
I've got some noise on the line my new

1847
01:30:24,090 --> 01:30:21,310
saves as a day is here I am your host

1848
01:30:26,570 --> 01:30:24,100
Jimmy Church this is night one of Egypt

1849
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:26,580
week here on fader block stay with us

1850
01:30:32,530 --> 01:30:42,370
[Music]

1851
01:30:48,580 --> 01:30:45,549
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1852
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:48,590
you're listening to faint and black

1853
01:30:52,370 --> 01:30:51,090
always on the edge of the hottest

1854
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:52,380
alternative talk

1855
01:31:14,859 --> 01:30:55,679
Jimmy church with fade to black stay GRA

1856
01:31:18,500 --> 01:31:14,869
radio.com hurricanes earthquakes

1857
01:31:20,959 --> 01:31:18,510
wildfires this year we've experienced

1858
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:20,969
more than our fair share this is Jimmy

1859
01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:23,280
Church of fade to black and last month I

1860
01:31:27,589 --> 01:31:25,440
decided to make sure my family does not

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welcome back fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church you can follow me on

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Twitter at 2j radio tonight is night one

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of our Egypt week right here on fader

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box seems like we do it every week

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don't wait our guest tonight my news

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save Sade is with us and now manu

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01:35:31,950 --> 01:35:27,539
discussing the previous paper and

1938
01:35:38,399 --> 01:35:31,960
certainly shocked and and John Anthony

1939
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West they had found evidence of a space

1940
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underneath the paw which got completely

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shut down you know by the Egyptologists

1942
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:48,909
and Zahi Hawass and and didn't allow

1943
01:35:54,740 --> 01:35:52,000
that to be pursued we can we'll save

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01:35:57,180 --> 01:35:54,750
that debate for another show but clearly

1945
01:36:02,250 --> 01:35:57,190
there is something underneath that paw

1946
01:36:04,589 --> 01:36:02,260
and what it is man one day I hope that

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01:36:09,510 --> 01:36:04,599
we will actually find out but the other

1948
01:36:12,060 --> 01:36:09,520
part of the great debate is the and I

1949
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:12,070
like everybody's opinion on this I asked

1950
01:36:18,359 --> 01:36:14,770
everybody the same question why the

1951
01:36:24,450 --> 01:36:18,369
total lack of hieroglyphics and evidence

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on the great pyramid yeah it's a good

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01:36:33,810 --> 01:36:28,800
question I you know I don't know and

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01:36:35,939 --> 01:36:33,820
it's you would think that they leave

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their mark

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so you could say did did did they run

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out of time did they die before they had

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01:36:46,529 --> 01:36:44,829
a chance to do it I I don't I just don't

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01:36:48,959 --> 01:36:46,539
know the answer to that i I know that's

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one piece of evidence that you know you

1961
01:36:53,339 --> 01:36:51,130
could say well maybe that those pyramids

1962
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:53,349
don't belong to that time I I understand

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01:36:59,879 --> 01:36:57,070
the rationale for it I went inside

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01:37:02,700 --> 01:36:59,889
mooniz pyramid a couple of weeks ago and

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01:37:04,350 --> 01:37:02,710
there was something that I had never

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01:37:06,270 --> 01:37:04,360
heard of and I had never seen it before

1967
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:06,280
I mean the Pyramid Texts are incredible

1968
01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:08,530
but the guard all of a sudden turned off

1969
01:37:13,729 --> 01:37:10,630
the light and turn on his flashlight and

1970
01:37:17,970 --> 01:37:13,739
then he said what we saw is amazing

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01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:17,980
basically the wall next to the

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01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:19,960
sarcophagus has a texture to

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01:37:28,410 --> 01:37:22,840
contour to it and the contour is in the

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01:37:30,510 --> 01:37:28,420
shape of shahu no real Orien yeah it's

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01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:30,520
incredible I I posted this on my

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01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:34,570
Facebook page and my cousin took a even

1977
01:37:40,380 --> 01:37:36,370
better picture of it and I had never

1978
01:37:42,990 --> 01:37:40,390
heard of this and it confirms that Orion

1979
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,000
was seen as the entire you know as a as

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01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:45,760
a as a constellation not just as a star

1981
01:37:50,430 --> 01:37:48,880
but as the entire figure just like you

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01:37:53,670 --> 01:37:50,440
know you see a thousand years later in

1983
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:53,680
to tomb of sin and mood and SETI you

1984
01:37:59,729 --> 01:37:57,489
know you see actually sajo as a figure

1985
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:59,739
as a constellation but here you see in a

1986
01:38:03,930 --> 01:38:01,360
noonas pyramid and that's you know just

1987
01:38:06,030 --> 01:38:03,940
to 300 years after the greats after the

1988
01:38:08,190 --> 01:38:06,040
Great Pyramid supposedly was built well

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01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,200
I already answer your question yeah you

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01:38:13,290 --> 01:38:10,000
see you bring up a great point when we

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01:38:16,650 --> 01:38:13,300
talk about unas or just about any other

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01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:16,660
pyramid or monument in all over Egypt

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01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:22,480
they didn't have any issues with writing

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you know and it's everywhere it's

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everywhere every surface had something

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out of that the Valley of the Kings

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01:38:37,110 --> 01:38:34,239
you know everything had something on it

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every wall every ceiling every step

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01:38:43,170 --> 01:38:39,989
every everything had something on it and

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you have an opportunity at the very

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least with the Grand Gallery or the

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01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:49,120
King's Chamber could forget about the

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outside of it okay whatever the entrance

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01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:54,190
doesn't mark enter here I get all of

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01:39:01,200 --> 01:38:56,290
that but the Grand Gallery those are

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01:39:03,420 --> 01:39:01,210
clean walls just ripe ready for just

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01:39:06,660 --> 01:39:03,430
gloriousness and they didn't do anything

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01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:06,670
nothing at all I know didn't I ask an

2009
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:08,230
Egyptologist that you know I go to

2010
01:39:14,010 --> 01:39:12,010
seminars once a month and there was an

2011
01:39:15,709 --> 01:39:14,020
Egyptologist whose name I forget I

2012
01:39:18,330 --> 01:39:15,719
apologize he's pretty fairly well known

2013
01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:18,340
and he said that he thinks that maybe

2014
01:39:25,020 --> 01:39:19,870
the Pyramid Texts were written on

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01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:25,030
papyrus before you know before ona's and

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01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:26,850
maybe that's a way you can explain it

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01:39:32,970 --> 01:39:29,730
but you know we just don't know what

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01:39:34,650 --> 01:39:32,980
excuse me what the other and the other

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01:39:38,030 --> 01:39:34,660
point

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01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:38,040
and when we bring up Howard Vice I

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01:39:45,090 --> 01:39:42,250
there's something in my gut that says to

2022
01:39:48,510 --> 01:39:45,100
me that that that that was there some

2023
01:39:51,150 --> 01:39:48,520
fabrication to his story and and what

2024
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:51,160
was done there now I think there was a

2025
01:39:56,010 --> 01:39:53,290
lot of evidence today that has been

2026
01:39:59,010 --> 01:39:56,020
brought forward suggest not only in his

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01:40:01,170 --> 01:39:59,020
character but also the opportunity

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01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:01,180
because back then everybody was trying

2029
01:40:05,550 --> 01:40:02,950
to make a great discovery in Egypt and

2030
01:40:07,650 --> 01:40:05,560
he hadn't done his yet and suddenly he's

2031
01:40:09,450 --> 01:40:07,660
finding all kinds of crazy things there

2032
01:40:11,729 --> 01:40:09,460
so they didn't sculptors you mean Scott

2033
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:11,739
Crichton's work right yes Scott Crichton

2034
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:14,890
II amazing book I've read that three

2035
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:17,650
times and he was a guest on this show

2036
01:40:22,740 --> 01:40:21,040
amazing work and but you know Scott

2037
01:40:27,570 --> 01:40:22,750
wasn't the first I mean this has been

2038
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:27,580
brought up in the past well anyway that

2039
01:40:33,540 --> 01:40:31,330
being said when we look at the Great

2040
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:33,550
Pyramid it certainly and I think you

2041
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:36,130
just alluded to this that quite possibly

2042
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:37,330
they were just built before

2043
01:40:42,150 --> 01:40:39,330
hieroglyphics was a language

2044
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:42,160
yeah well that's of course that's part

2045
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:44,050
of the you know lost civilization model

2046
01:40:49,979 --> 01:40:47,650
I actually you probably don't know this

2047
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:49,989
but I've had long discussions with Scott

2048
01:40:54,420 --> 01:40:52,630
Crichton on on a forum your Graham

2049
01:40:57,090 --> 01:40:54,430
Hancock forum mm-hmm

2050
01:40:59,729 --> 01:40:57,100
and I think I think first of all I think

2051
01:41:02,100 --> 01:40:59,739
if you want a prosecutor Scott Crichton

2052
01:41:04,110 --> 01:41:02,110
is an amazing prosecute yes he is he

2053
01:41:08,460 --> 01:41:04,120
lays out a great case yes you don't know

2054
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:08,470
yeah I I think we're I maybe were I how

2055
01:41:13,710 --> 01:41:11,110
I settled this with him and I don't know

2056
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:13,720
if you would agree but I think he

2057
01:41:19,229 --> 01:41:16,530
created he has created enough reasonable

2058
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:19,239
suspicion you know in law enforcement

2059
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:22,960
you say probable cause to warrant a

2060
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:25,930
probe of course if that were ever to be

2061
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:27,610
allowed but there is a you know there's

2062
01:41:32,010 --> 01:41:29,290
the second car to which the one that's

2063
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:32,020
more hidden than the the infamous one

2064
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:34,960
and that car to just disappears behind

2065
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:39,280
the the granite wall and see the CNN

2066
01:41:45,290 --> 01:41:41,530
editor yeah that's right so it's up in

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01:41:47,610 --> 01:41:45,300
in the fifth chamber and so to I think

2068
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:47,620
Scott's theory with

2069
01:41:52,620 --> 01:41:50,800
will rise or fall if you probe behind

2070
01:41:54,510 --> 01:41:52,630
that ledge and you actually can take it

2071
01:41:57,150 --> 01:41:54,520
you make a small hole and you look

2072
01:41:59,490 --> 01:41:57,160
behind to see if the cartouche continues

2073
01:42:01,200 --> 01:41:59,500
and because if it does then that's not a

2074
01:42:04,740 --> 01:42:01,210
fake cartouche and that would probably

2075
01:42:07,650 --> 01:42:04,750
falsify his theory but that's how you do

2076
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:07,660
science I think Scott is a great in

2077
01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:10,090
terms of you know in terms of proposing

2078
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:13,450
a scientific model and in terms of you

2079
01:42:17,940 --> 01:42:15,730
know testing it I think it's fabulous I

2080
01:42:21,060 --> 01:42:17,950
think that's exactly what you should do

2081
01:42:22,650 --> 01:42:21,070
next but at this stage right now I don't

2082
01:42:24,180 --> 01:42:22,660
think you can settle the issue I think

2083
01:42:26,700 --> 01:42:24,190
there's so much quibbling I mean you

2084
01:42:28,530 --> 01:42:26,710
know it's eye witness some of these

2085
01:42:30,420 --> 01:42:28,540
discussions and it gets really personal

2086
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:30,430
and you know III don't want to get

2087
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:32,410
personal with people which is you know

2088
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:33,610
we're just trying to have a you know a

2089
01:42:39,860 --> 01:42:36,910
dispassionate discussion and I think

2090
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:39,870
Scott is made a very forceful case for

2091
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:43,690
for for a test and that test will make

2092
01:42:50,130 --> 01:42:46,090
or break this that book is absolute

2093
01:42:52,440 --> 01:42:50,140
required reading I agree it's it's when

2094
01:42:54,450 --> 01:42:52,450
you it the the the evidence is

2095
01:42:57,690 --> 01:42:54,460
compelling he has done the research and

2096
01:43:00,720 --> 01:42:57,700
when you go back and he was so lucky to

2097
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:00,730
you know get the original journals and

2098
01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:04,330
and look at that and and present them

2099
01:43:09,060 --> 01:43:07,390
and it's just required reading you have

2100
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:09,070
to go you can't discuss the Great

2101
01:43:13,950 --> 01:43:11,770
Pyramid without having some general

2102
01:43:16,230 --> 01:43:13,960
background on this and howard rice is

2103
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:16,240
critical to all of this and Scott

2104
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:18,250
Crichton does a wonderful job in his

2105
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:20,050
book you know you know Jimmy there's

2106
01:43:22,860 --> 01:43:21,370
actually this is a great segue to

2107
01:43:25,460 --> 01:43:22,870
something I just want to insert real

2108
01:43:28,590 --> 01:43:25,470
quick I think this this has to be said

2109
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:28,600
there is no shame whatsoever in being

2110
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:31,840
proven wrong in fact that should be an

2111
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:33,970
honor badge in science if you you know

2112
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:36,430
this is the way it used to be you you

2113
01:43:40,140 --> 01:43:38,110
proposed a model and then you try to

2114
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:40,150
falsify it and so because if you can

2115
01:43:45,570 --> 01:43:42,970
falsify a model we know more that's the

2116
01:43:47,490 --> 01:43:45,580
way you advance knowledge it you don't

2117
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:47,500
always have to be right it's in you know

2118
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:49,450
sometimes it's more useful to actually

2119
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:51,850
do an experiment and falsify yourself

2120
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:54,310
and so that's how I look at Scott's

2121
01:43:58,170 --> 01:43:56,050
theory you know it's a great theory it's

2122
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:58,180
a great model and it actually makes a

2123
01:44:01,380 --> 01:44:00,400
testable case and I think that's what

2124
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:01,390
science is all about

2125
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:03,730
but you know to try to attack him

2126
01:44:07,110 --> 01:44:06,070
personally which i have witnessed this

2127
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:07,120
you know he's getting personally

2128
01:44:10,890 --> 01:44:09,130
attacked you know and I think this

2129
01:44:13,650 --> 01:44:10,900
completely misses the point and this is

2130
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:13,660
really unfortunate in this field I I

2131
01:44:19,620 --> 01:44:16,330
this because people are so you know

2132
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:19,630
they're so it's so important to them to

2133
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:21,760
be correct to be right and say they

2134
01:44:25,110 --> 01:44:23,530
completely lose sight of the fact that

2135
01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:25,120
that's not how you do science that's

2136
01:44:30,780 --> 01:44:27,160
it's not what science is all about no

2137
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:30,790
you all you got to do is go up to the

2138
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:35,890
fifth level with the chisel and and

2139
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:39,370
answer the question you know but right

2140
01:44:42,810 --> 01:44:40,960
now there is there actually a court

2141
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:42,820
order that completely see this is a

2142
01:44:48,090 --> 01:44:44,800
crime scene right now me I know because

2143
01:44:50,850 --> 01:44:48,100
of the Germans yeah yes this is a crime

2144
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:50,860
scene and so there's no entry up there

2145
01:44:56,310 --> 01:44:53,050
nothing nuts not whatsoever so yeah but

2146
01:44:58,590 --> 01:44:56,320
maybe in the future when it opens up and

2147
01:45:00,630 --> 01:44:58,600
maybe then it I don't think it will take

2148
01:45:03,060 --> 01:45:00,640
much you just maybe you need

2149
01:45:05,190 --> 01:45:03,070
I think an inch would be enough not even

2150
01:45:07,110 --> 01:45:05,200
that not even that I totally agree like

2151
01:45:10,230 --> 01:45:07,120
I said just take a chisel whack whack

2152
01:45:13,500 --> 01:45:10,240
you know take a chunk out take a look

2153
01:45:17,660 --> 01:45:13,510
does it continue or not that's right

2154
01:45:21,420 --> 01:45:17,670
that's it we put an end to all of this

2155
01:45:23,070 --> 01:45:21,430
but anyway okay so now well now it's

2156
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:23,080
some of the most exciting stuff to come

2157
01:45:31,950 --> 01:45:29,050
out of Egypt maybe eclipsing King Tut is

2158
01:45:35,010 --> 01:45:31,960
happening right now and this additional

2159
01:45:37,980 --> 01:45:35,020
chamber above the Grand Gallery I think

2160
01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:37,990
is I talk about it nearly every day on

2161
01:45:42,030 --> 01:45:40,450
the show we were told that there is

2162
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:42,040
nothing there there's nothing more to

2163
01:45:44,370 --> 01:45:44,050
discover we all know that's a load of

2164
01:45:48,330 --> 01:45:44,380
crap

2165
01:45:50,850 --> 01:45:48,340
but this this is discovery what the

2166
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:50,860
moulin scan is about as exciting as it

2167
01:45:54,900 --> 01:45:51,570
gets

2168
01:45:58,200 --> 01:45:54,910
yeah this it's it's a fascinating

2169
01:46:02,160 --> 01:45:58,210
discovery there's been one paper by

2170
01:46:04,020 --> 01:46:02,170
David Lightbody who is criticizing it

2171
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:04,030
he's saying it could be an artifact and

2172
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:07,840
I think the the team is aware of it but

2173
01:46:12,450 --> 01:46:10,210
I you know I mean of course I'm not a

2174
01:46:14,750 --> 01:46:12,460
physicist so but I have some science

2175
01:46:18,109 --> 01:46:14,760
background so I looked at the paper and

2176
01:46:20,390 --> 01:46:18,119
I think the criticism is a fell short I

2177
01:46:21,379 --> 01:46:20,400
think that chamber is real and the

2178
01:46:23,629 --> 01:46:21,389
reason why I'm saying that is because

2179
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:23,639
there was a detector outside of the

2180
01:46:26,779 --> 01:46:24,690
pyramid as well

2181
01:46:30,620 --> 01:46:26,789
mm-hmm and that detector also picks up

2182
01:46:36,339 --> 01:46:30,630
the big voice so I think it's for real

2183
01:46:39,319 --> 01:46:36,349
now as you started to look at this you

2184
01:46:45,020 --> 01:46:39,329
there's something else that you bring up

2185
01:46:47,180 --> 01:46:45,030
which is the how do I describe it kind

2186
01:46:52,370 --> 01:46:47,190
of watch that video so many times the

2187
01:46:55,970 --> 01:46:52,380
internal ramp that spirals around by

2188
01:46:58,729 --> 01:46:55,980
jean-pierre the dong yep and I've

2189
01:47:02,390 --> 01:46:58,739
watched that over and over again I'm not

2190
01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:02,400
I'm not convinced about that but the

2191
01:47:09,049 --> 01:47:06,000
knotch that is up and forget what what

2192
01:47:11,540 --> 01:47:09,059
corner it is I've always questioned that

2193
01:47:14,299 --> 01:47:11,550
notch up there right north east

2194
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:14,309
northeast and and you can see it you can

2195
01:47:17,810 --> 01:47:16,050
look at any picture of the Great Pyramid

2196
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:17,820
and that notch is right there it seemed

2197
01:47:23,540 --> 01:47:21,570
if I climb the Great Pyramid I'm going

2198
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:23,550
straight there first on my way up I'm

2199
01:47:31,450 --> 01:47:27,170
walking in there I'm serious - yes

2200
01:47:33,890 --> 01:47:31,460
walking in Popeyes footsteps right yes

2201
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:33,900
but by the way I just want to say so

2202
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:37,679
Giampiero down very very gracious review

2203
01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:40,170
- paper that I just published and he

2204
01:47:43,700 --> 01:47:42,239
critiqued it and it was very useful and

2205
01:47:45,319 --> 01:47:43,710
you know I of course I acknowledged it

2206
01:47:48,859 --> 01:47:45,329
in the paper

2207
01:47:53,299 --> 01:47:48,869
so to your point I think he has not been

2208
01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:53,309
falsified yet Jimmy it's because the

2209
01:47:59,959 --> 01:47:55,920
spaces that he's proposing are probably

2210
01:48:01,600 --> 01:47:59,969
too too short to be able to show on a

2211
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:01,610
muon scan so just to give you an idea

2212
01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:04,320
the positive control for the muon

2213
01:48:08,839 --> 01:48:06,960
experiment was done in the bent pyramid

2214
01:48:12,290 --> 01:48:08,849
and in the bent pyramid they picked up

2215
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:12,300
the upper Korbel chamber adroit they

2216
01:48:15,470 --> 01:48:14,130
laid out the detector plates in the on

2217
01:48:16,970 --> 01:48:15,480
the lower level and they were able to

2218
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:16,980
pick up the upper chamber but the upper

2219
01:48:21,140 --> 01:48:19,320
chamber you know my hunch I was trying

2220
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:21,150
to get the exact measurements which I

2221
01:48:25,609 --> 01:48:22,650
didn't have enough time my guess is

2222
01:48:28,189 --> 01:48:25,619
about 20-30 feet high so and you know

2223
01:48:28,700 --> 01:48:28,199
the overall bent pyramid is I think it's

2224
01:48:30,860 --> 01:48:28,710
200

2225
01:48:34,729 --> 01:48:30,870
cubits which is something like 350 feet

2226
01:48:36,530 --> 01:48:34,739
I think so so that that is the amount of

2227
01:48:38,810 --> 01:48:36,540
space you need to be able to get a

2228
01:48:40,820 --> 01:48:38,820
positive signal on a muon scan and then

2229
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:40,830
the negative control goes back to Luis

2230
01:48:47,540 --> 01:48:45,330
Alvarez and I met Farley in the in the

2231
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:47,550
60s when they scan so I don't know if

2232
01:48:51,470 --> 01:48:49,530
people know this but the muon scan a

2233
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:51,480
muon scan was actually performed on

2234
01:48:56,930 --> 01:48:54,480
khafre's pyramid and they came back

2235
01:48:58,520 --> 01:48:56,940
short so they said the reason why they

2236
01:49:00,800 --> 01:48:58,530
scan confers pyramid is saying well we

2237
01:49:03,260 --> 01:49:00,810
have all these chambers in in you know

2238
01:49:04,820 --> 01:49:03,270
Khufu's pyramid but we only have bells

2239
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:04,830
oneis chamber in khafre's pyramid

2240
01:49:08,990 --> 01:49:07,050
there's gotta be other chambers so they

2241
01:49:11,150 --> 01:49:09,000
stay laid out the detector plates in

2242
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:11,160
those days of course it was a little bit

2243
01:49:15,890 --> 01:49:13,770
more primitive but they couldn't come up

2244
01:49:19,820 --> 01:49:15,900
with anything so they were able to see

2245
01:49:22,010 --> 01:49:19,830
the casing on the tip they saw that so

2246
01:49:23,810 --> 01:49:22,020
they were sort of gauging how sensitive

2247
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:23,820
the technique is but they couldn't see

2248
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:25,530
any chambers so that's the negative

2249
01:49:29,390 --> 01:49:27,450
control positive controls bent pyramid

2250
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:29,400
and now let's go back to the Great

2251
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:32,370
Pyramid and you know who Don would his

2252
01:49:37,310 --> 01:49:35,370
spiral ramp show on a muon scan and I'm

2253
01:49:39,410 --> 01:49:37,320
not sure it would Jimmy I'm not sure

2254
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:39,420
yeah I think he hasn't been falsified

2255
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:43,290
yet see this is the thing if if the

2256
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:45,930
internal ramp theory now what we're

2257
01:49:54,620 --> 01:49:49,290
talking about everybody is what John

2258
01:49:57,490 --> 01:49:54,630
Pierre suggests is that inside of the

2259
01:50:02,090 --> 01:49:57,500
walls of each side of the pyramid is a

2260
01:50:03,380 --> 01:50:02,100
spiraling hallway that ramp that went

2261
01:50:08,110 --> 01:50:03,390
all the way up and that's where they

2262
01:50:09,979 --> 01:50:08,120
carried the stones I would think that

2263
01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:09,989
we're talking about a very large

2264
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:12,960
structure here that it would be at least

2265
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:16,530
partially evident on all four sides we

2266
01:50:21,229 --> 01:50:19,650
would see something there it depends on

2267
01:50:24,350 --> 01:50:21,239
it depends on where you put the detector

2268
01:50:26,590 --> 01:50:24,360
plates well certainly but they would

2269
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:26,600
pick up something somewhere they found

2270
01:50:38,750 --> 01:50:35,810
the new almost said the new Grand

2271
01:50:42,350 --> 01:50:38,760
Gallery the new chamber about Grand

2272
01:50:43,820 --> 01:50:42,360
Gallery and they are able to do that not

2273
01:50:45,740 --> 01:50:43,830
only with Mulan's but with heat

2274
01:50:48,860 --> 01:50:45,750
signatures too and I would think that

2275
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:48,870
the same thing would show up with nice

2276
01:50:52,460 --> 01:50:50,370
ginormous rams

2277
01:50:54,620 --> 01:50:52,470
right the problem okay so the problem

2278
01:50:57,170 --> 01:50:54,630
with the muons the grant so the the big

2279
01:51:00,350 --> 01:50:57,180
void yes there's a positive signal but

2280
01:51:03,230 --> 01:51:00,360
it's surprisingly you know how should I

2281
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:03,240
say it's surprisingly small I it's a

2282
01:51:09,170 --> 01:51:05,970
huge space but if you look at the actual

2283
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:09,180
data it's not such a big signal you know

2284
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:11,130
what I mean I'm used to when I did

2285
01:51:14,690 --> 01:51:12,960
molecular biology you know my professor

2286
01:51:16,220 --> 01:51:14,700
is saying is it don't even talk to me

2287
01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:16,230
unless you have an at least a two-fold

2288
01:51:22,850 --> 01:51:18,510
effect and that is not a two-fold effect

2289
01:51:25,820 --> 01:51:22,860
okay if you look at the trace so so I'm

2290
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:25,830
not so I'm not so sure that this the

2291
01:51:31,970 --> 01:51:29,280
sensitivity of this of this of this type

2292
01:51:33,620 --> 01:51:31,980
of scanning but the way to overcome it

2293
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:33,630
is to put the plate somewhere else so

2294
01:51:37,670 --> 01:51:35,490
for example if you put the detector

2295
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:37,680
plates up in Campbell's chamber you know

2296
01:51:40,460 --> 01:51:39,090
which is the fifth-wheel evening chamber

2297
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:40,470
where you're talking about right with

2298
01:51:46,190 --> 01:51:42,930
the cartouche you actually are cutting

2299
01:51:48,410 --> 01:51:46,200
out about two-fifths of stone from the

2300
01:51:52,370 --> 01:51:48,420
path of the muons and you probably have

2301
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:52,380
a much higher signal-to-noise ratio so I

2302
01:51:58,100 --> 01:51:56,130
think that is the next step and of

2303
01:52:00,230 --> 01:51:58,110
course I have a surprise for you

2304
01:52:05,180 --> 01:52:00,240
which we can talk about in in a few

2305
01:52:07,130 --> 01:52:05,190
minutes something I saw that sounds like

2306
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:07,140
they're looking for that well no

2307
01:52:12,710 --> 01:52:09,690
actually I'm not gonna I'm not going to

2308
01:52:14,630 --> 01:52:12,720
let you do that to me so no let's

2309
01:52:17,900 --> 01:52:14,640
discuss that because when we come back

2310
01:52:20,630 --> 01:52:17,910
we'll get to the deep part of of your

2311
01:52:21,950 --> 01:52:20,640
paper and and we'll spend that whole

2312
01:52:24,110 --> 01:52:21,960
site what did you see

2313
01:52:27,140 --> 01:52:24,120
well the scan there's a new scan in

2314
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:27,150
progress and and you of course you were

2315
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:29,520
there two weeks ago is this when I saw

2316
01:52:34,630 --> 01:52:32,610
it right they they have laid out

2317
01:52:39,860 --> 01:52:34,640
detector plates in the Grand Gallery

2318
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:39,870
well okay now see okay what did you see

2319
01:52:42,650 --> 01:52:40,650
exactly

2320
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:42,660
well they have these these detector

2321
01:52:45,710 --> 01:52:44,730
plates there are rectangular wooden

2322
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:45,720
boxes

2323
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:47,760
and they're covered you know that's

2324
01:52:50,690 --> 01:52:48,960
because you have tourists going in and

2325
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:50,700
out all the time so they are there lying

2326
01:52:56,090 --> 01:52:54,480
on the on the rails I you know I think

2327
01:52:58,520 --> 01:52:56,100
that's what you call it on the left and

2328
01:53:00,020 --> 01:52:58,530
right side as you go up the stairways on

2329
01:53:02,630 --> 01:53:00,030
the left and right side there's sort of

2330
01:53:05,540 --> 01:53:02,640
a a small little ramp right where the

2331
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:05,550
where the spaces were the military

2332
01:53:08,540 --> 01:53:08,010
stairs in the wall right exactly yeah

2333
01:53:10,910 --> 01:53:08,550
that's right

2334
01:53:13,610 --> 01:53:10,920
seen it and so yeah so you have and I

2335
01:53:17,210 --> 01:53:13,620
counted them I think it was I remember

2336
01:53:20,390 --> 01:53:17,220
vaguely 23 boxes up and down the gallery

2337
01:53:21,620 --> 01:53:20,400
so and and I actually I mean I thought

2338
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:21,630
they were a detective place but I asked

2339
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:23,850
a guard and he confirmed it yes that

2340
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:27,110
they are scanning again is there cabling

2341
01:53:31,820 --> 01:53:30,810
no I didn't see any cables okay wow

2342
01:53:35,500 --> 01:53:31,830
that's exciting

2343
01:53:39,290 --> 01:53:35,510
now yeah okay so if they would be going

2344
01:53:40,970 --> 01:53:39,300
from okay so the detector plates are

2345
01:53:44,750 --> 01:53:40,980
there what about on the outside of the

2346
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:44,760
pyramid is there any evidence of didn't

2347
01:53:48,110 --> 01:53:45,210
see it

2348
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:48,120
right because when the detector plates

2349
01:53:53,870 --> 01:53:50,490
have to you have to have them on both

2350
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:53,880
sides well they they they're basically

2351
01:53:58,700 --> 01:53:56,730
aiming for you know the the grant

2352
01:54:02,570 --> 01:53:58,710
gallery I believe is 26 and a half

2353
01:54:06,980 --> 01:54:02,580
degrees and so they're aiming for

2354
01:54:12,260 --> 01:54:06,990
I guess the north the northern

2355
01:54:15,170 --> 01:54:12,270
hemisphere and gallery is leaned is

2356
01:54:18,530 --> 01:54:15,180
going from north to south and it's it's

2357
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:18,540
and it's leaning about 26 degrees so you

2358
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:19,890
lay out the detector plates they're

2359
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:22,050
basically aiming for the northern face

2360
01:54:27,590 --> 01:54:24,000
of the pyramid and what's interesting

2361
01:54:30,740 --> 01:54:27,600
yeah I know but exactly don't but don't

2362
01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:30,750
you have to pick up the other side of

2363
01:54:37,250 --> 01:54:34,320
the Mulan's well you're interested in

2364
01:54:38,930 --> 01:54:37,260
the in that in the trajectory right so

2365
01:54:40,970 --> 01:54:38,940
you have the muons coming through the

2366
01:54:42,710 --> 01:54:40,980
pyramid and then at different angles and

2367
01:54:44,210 --> 01:54:42,720
then what they're doing with those

2368
01:54:45,860 --> 01:54:44,220
detector plates they are you know

2369
01:54:48,590 --> 01:54:45,870
they're measuring the impact and they're

2370
01:54:50,060 --> 01:54:48,600
also measuring the angle right so the so

2371
01:54:51,980 --> 01:54:50,070
you know let's say you have an oblique

2372
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,990
trajectory and then the muon goes

2373
01:54:55,340 --> 01:54:54,000
obliquely through the pyramid and then

2374
01:54:57,530 --> 01:54:55,350
it goes into the detector plate at a

2375
01:54:59,190 --> 01:54:57,540
certain angle and that's how they and

2376
01:55:00,540 --> 01:54:59,200
then they process the data and they

2377
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:00,550
No you know where the where the

2378
01:55:04,980 --> 01:55:02,530
radiation came from and then if there's

2379
01:55:06,990 --> 01:55:04,990
a space in the pathway it'll speed up

2380
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:07,000
the transmission and you get more muon

2381
01:55:14,670 --> 01:55:10,330
signals in in those trajectories that

2382
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:14,680
are crossing a space right and so and

2383
01:55:19,490 --> 01:55:17,050
that's going so that's north or south so

2384
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:19,500
they're there I guess they would be

2385
01:55:30,810 --> 01:55:26,650
detecting east to west well top yeah Wow

2386
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:30,820
yeah so what would okay and that is and

2387
01:55:36,150 --> 01:55:33,970
and also if that is the case and I'm

2388
01:55:37,980 --> 01:55:36,160
assuming the detector plates are facing

2389
01:55:40,770 --> 01:55:37,990
in the opposite direction they're not

2390
01:55:41,850 --> 01:55:40,780
facing each other right no no all right

2391
01:55:43,770 --> 01:55:41,860
they're facing in the opposite

2392
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:43,780
directions so they would be covering

2393
01:55:48,780 --> 01:55:46,480
half of the pyramid on each side of the

2394
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:48,790
Grand Gallery that's right there

2395
01:55:55,410 --> 01:55:51,760
basically if you know they're they're

2396
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:55,420
looking up against northern side of it

2397
01:55:59,490 --> 01:55:57,010
and you know this may not be the only

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01:56:02,460 --> 01:55:59,500
place I just just what I saw it is it's

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01:56:07,130 --> 01:56:02,470
it if I were them I would put two plates

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01:56:10,380 --> 01:56:07,140
on the Rinda into the relieving chambers

2401
01:56:13,170 --> 01:56:10,390
and who knows maybe they did

2402
01:56:15,540 --> 01:56:13,180
have you seen we've got two minutes

2403
01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:15,550
before the break have you seen the

2404
01:56:21,870 --> 01:56:18,880
dassault video on the construction of

2405
01:56:24,570 --> 01:56:21,880
the pyramid you know that the French the

2406
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:24,580
French aviation company yes I have what

2407
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:26,410
do you think about that I think that's

2408
01:56:33,750 --> 01:56:30,730
one of the I do not know why that is not

2409
01:56:35,490 --> 01:56:33,760
discussed more and openly debated that's

2410
01:56:39,330 --> 01:56:35,500
one of those fascinating theories I've

2411
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:39,340
ever seen put forward yeah basically the

2412
01:56:44,670 --> 01:56:42,130
Grand Gallery is a logistical passage

2413
01:56:46,890 --> 01:56:44,680
right as as a counterpoint to lift up

2414
01:56:49,110 --> 01:56:46,900
the stones the grande heavy granite

2415
01:56:51,540 --> 01:56:49,120
stones I mean you know it's a model it I

2416
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:51,550
if this is what science is you propose a

2417
01:56:58,860 --> 01:56:53,770
model and then you test it and the first

2418
01:57:01,380 --> 01:56:58,870
test sensibly falsified it this is what

2419
01:57:04,500 --> 01:57:01,390
I'm trying to say so the first run at it

2420
01:57:07,290 --> 01:57:04,510
says that you know no spiral ramp and

2421
01:57:09,390 --> 01:57:07,300
this whole thing maybe not all of it but

2422
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:09,400
at least a spiral ramp portion of it may

2423
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:11,410
be falsified but with the stipulation

2424
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:12,970
that maybe the test wasn't

2425
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:14,290
sensitive enough which is why I think

2426
01:57:19,470 --> 01:57:16,450
they're doing this follow-up experiment

2427
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:19,480
to see if they can now see it well also

2428
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:23,920
also in the Dassault video they suggest

2429
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:28,210
an exit out of the King's Chamber right

2430
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:30,610
yes so you come in you seal it off you

2431
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:32,170
drop it you have the you know the

2432
01:57:38,250 --> 01:57:34,330
trapdoors right you seal it off but

2433
01:57:40,260 --> 01:57:38,260
those guys the workers had to get out so

2434
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:40,270
there's an exit which is right behind

2435
01:57:44,670 --> 01:57:42,370
the sarcophagus and there's a stone

2436
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:44,680
there that's a different color than all

2437
01:57:49,230 --> 01:57:46,810
of the other granite that is in in in

2438
01:57:52,500 --> 01:57:49,240
the King's Chamber and that's the stone

2439
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:52,510
that they put in place after they exited

2440
01:57:59,700 --> 01:57:55,330
next to the Grand Gallery is an exit

2441
01:58:02,850 --> 01:57:59,710
ramp and hallway that goes down in and

2442
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:02,860
leaves the pyramid at ground level right

2443
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:05,440
now there's two secret rooms according

2444
01:58:10,410 --> 01:58:08,050
to hotel choose secret rooms and now

2445
01:58:13,380 --> 01:58:10,420
what I find interesting about that is

2446
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:13,390
well first off that stone is definitely

2447
01:58:16,620 --> 01:58:15,070
a different color you can look at any

2448
01:58:21,060 --> 01:58:16,630
picture and that thing stands out like a

2449
01:58:24,450 --> 01:58:21,070
sore thumb this in this new Moulin test

2450
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:24,460
if it is where if it is what you're

2451
01:58:28,890 --> 01:58:26,650
suggesting up and down the Grand Gallery

2452
01:58:31,170 --> 01:58:28,900
would wouldn't they be able to detect

2453
01:58:35,870 --> 01:58:31,180
that hallway that was suggested by the

2454
01:58:39,150 --> 01:58:35,880
Dassault study oh that's a good question

2455
01:58:40,980 --> 01:58:39,160
well I can tell you so the answer is

2456
01:58:43,530 --> 01:58:40,990
maybe not because in the bent pyramid

2457
01:58:46,170 --> 01:58:43,540
they were not able to detect the passage

2458
01:58:48,150 --> 01:58:46,180
way right they only saw the chamber but

2459
01:58:51,390 --> 01:58:48,160
not the passage that connects the

2460
01:58:53,190 --> 01:58:51,400
chamber to the one below and so it looks

2461
01:58:56,130 --> 01:58:53,200
like the chamber is just not enough

2462
01:58:58,620 --> 01:58:56,140
space to make a difference and in this

2463
01:58:59,100 --> 01:58:58,630
case I wonder if the chamber is just too

2464
01:59:06,360 --> 01:58:59,110
short

2465
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:06,370
in its long axis if you did that you

2466
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:08,290
probably you might be able to see it are

2467
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:12,010
you sure your dermatologist I need to

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01:59:16,740 --> 01:59:13,810
look at your CV a little bit closer

2469
01:59:19,110 --> 01:59:16,750
let's take a break right here because

2470
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:19,120
when we come back that's always been the

2471
01:59:23,550 --> 01:59:21,130
big question in our love it when Zahi

2472
01:59:26,660 --> 01:59:23,560
Hawass is famously quote there's nothing

2473
01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:26,670
to see here there's nothing to see here

2474
01:59:31,070 --> 01:59:29,130
well there is much more to see inside of

2475
01:59:32,390 --> 01:59:31,080
the grand pyramid and the Great Pyramid

2476
01:59:34,670 --> 01:59:32,400
we'll be discussing all that one with

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01:59:37,550 --> 01:59:34,680
Manu when we come back after this short

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break this is fade to black night one of

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I am your host Jimmy Church what an

2591
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amazing show tonight our guest my new

2592
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save Sade he just published a paper

2593
02:05:09,370 --> 02:05:02,460
today

2594
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:09,380
now this is I've read through most of it

2595
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:12,480
it's compelling some of it is way above

2596
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:15,810
my pay grade it's a fascinating read

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money where can everybody or can anybody

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have access to this yes it's free free

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access archaeological discovery journal

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if you just put that into the search

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engine it'll take you to the website

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02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:30,270
that's the easiest way I'll have it on

2603
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:32,970
my website maybe by tomorrow and it's

2604
02:05:38,060 --> 02:05:35,370
also on my academia

2605
02:05:39,980 --> 02:05:38,070
edu profile so there's different ways

2606
02:05:42,620 --> 02:05:39,990
but the easiest way archaeological

2607
02:05:48,740 --> 02:05:42,630
discovery journal and the title of the

2608
02:05:50,870 --> 02:05:48,750
paper the title of the paper is that's a

2609
02:05:52,970 --> 02:05:50,880
long title so I have to that's why I let

2610
02:05:56,300 --> 02:05:52,980
it die I handed it right off to you

2611
02:05:59,060 --> 02:05:56,310
right so it's it says hey me you know

2612
02:06:01,660 --> 02:05:59,070
use numerically tact surface ratios to

2613
02:06:04,580 --> 02:06:01,670
mark ceilings inside the Great Pyramid

2614
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:04,590
hinting at design space is still hidden

2615
02:06:08,570 --> 02:06:05,250
within

2616
02:06:09,710 --> 02:06:08,580
so it basically basically the conclusion

2617
02:06:13,550 --> 02:06:09,720
of this paper I'll just give you the

2618
02:06:17,330 --> 02:06:13,560
bottom line right now is I am proposing

2619
02:06:20,690 --> 02:06:17,340
that there is at least six design spaces

2620
02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:20,700
inside the pyramid Great Pyramid and

2621
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:24,000
these six spaces are above the granite

2622
02:06:29,090 --> 02:06:26,610
Tower so we're talking about top three

2623
02:06:31,670 --> 02:06:29,100
fifths of the pyramid where there is no

2624
02:06:34,970 --> 02:06:31,680
known spaces at this at this time and

2625
02:06:37,880 --> 02:06:34,980
I'm saying based on this analysis

2626
02:06:43,940 --> 02:06:37,890
there's at least six maybe ten design

2627
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:43,950
spaces now okay hands aji Hawass is head

2628
02:06:52,860 --> 02:06:49,650
just spun around now it has my know he

2629
02:06:56,570 --> 02:06:52,870
might already know I'm right right and

2630
02:06:58,370 --> 02:06:56,580
certainly with the Moo on paper that

2631
02:07:02,310 --> 02:06:58,380
again

2632
02:07:05,690 --> 02:07:02,320
suggests that there is a new chamber

2633
02:07:08,490 --> 02:07:05,700
above the Grand Gallery where there is

2634
02:07:13,620 --> 02:07:08,500
allegedly supposed to be nothing right

2635
02:07:16,830 --> 02:07:13,630
okay your paper is taking this a giant

2636
02:07:19,530 --> 02:07:16,840
step forward and outside of the box

2637
02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:19,540
even from the Mulan suggestion yes

2638
02:07:25,590 --> 02:07:21,520
there's these spaces are above the great

2639
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:25,600
void and ears and now okay let's we're

2640
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:29,770
gonna break this down as to why you have

2641
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:32,410
come to this conclusion one space to

2642
02:07:39,660 --> 02:07:35,980
space is one thing now we're we're

2643
02:07:42,810 --> 02:07:39,670
suggesting between six and ten now to

2644
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:42,820
come to this conclusion you have to have

2645
02:07:50,220 --> 02:07:46,930
something to base this on so let's start

2646
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:50,230
with the very basics here and let's talk

2647
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:52,810
about the thickness of the blocks for

2648
02:07:59,100 --> 02:07:55,090
each layer of the Great Pyramid let's

2649
02:08:00,720 --> 02:07:59,110
start there right so so I'm gonna I'm

2650
02:08:03,540 --> 02:08:00,730
gonna make a comment about that and then

2651
02:08:05,670 --> 02:08:03,550
I'm just going to present two quick

2652
02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:05,680
concepts and then it'll be really easy

2653
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:09,310
to understand this so to your point if

2654
02:08:12,810 --> 02:08:11,410
you stand in front of the pyramid and

2655
02:08:15,870 --> 02:08:12,820
this of course people look at it all the

2656
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:15,880
time and you could come 20 times and you

2657
02:08:20,340 --> 02:08:18,370
might not see it but once you're aware

2658
02:08:23,550 --> 02:08:20,350
of it it's actually completely obvious

2659
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:23,560
that the thickness of the courses

2660
02:08:28,740 --> 02:08:27,610
changes and it's not a smooth ride up to

2661
02:08:31,140 --> 02:08:28,750
the pyramid you know you would think

2662
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:31,150
that they gradually get you know smaller

2663
02:08:34,980 --> 02:08:32,530
and smaller and smaller but that's not

2664
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:34,990
the case they suddenly get thicker and

2665
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:37,930
then the thickness tapers down and then

2666
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:39,850
it gets thicker again so it creates sort

2667
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:42,400
of a a wave effect and this this this

2668
02:08:47,070 --> 02:08:44,770
term wave this comes from jean-pierre

2669
02:08:49,650 --> 02:08:47,080
Houdin so he actually emailed when he

2670
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:49,660
emailed me he he put it in that term I

2671
02:08:53,790 --> 02:08:51,760
called it I call it a feathering effect

2672
02:08:55,410 --> 02:08:53,800
so the pyramids texture and you know

2673
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:55,420
when you see the light show it's even

2674
02:08:59,580 --> 02:08:57,010
more obvious because you have the lasers

2675
02:09:01,800 --> 02:08:59,590
hitting you know the pyramid in certain

2676
02:09:03,870 --> 02:09:01,810
angles and then you can really see it

2677
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:03,880
this feathering effect of the of the

2678
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:05,770
texture of the core masonry they have

2679
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:06,310
three

2680
02:09:10,580 --> 02:09:08,530
after reading your paper I went back and

2681
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:10,590
looked at all of the high-res images

2682
02:09:19,260 --> 02:09:14,530
that I could find on the Great Pyramid

2683
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:19,270
and now it is obvious yes it's obvious

2684
02:09:24,890 --> 02:09:22,090
like when I found out about the eight

2685
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:24,900
sides on the pyramid instead of fourth I

2686
02:09:30,510 --> 02:09:28,090
it's it's right there I can see it in

2687
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:30,520
any image now of the Great Pyramid

2688
02:09:38,970 --> 02:09:34,170
now that you have polluted my mind right

2689
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:38,980
yes it's rather obvious how was this not

2690
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:42,850
discovered before not necessarily why it

2691
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:45,010
is there but just the simple fact that

2692
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:48,130
it is there well it is so it it has been

2693
02:09:52,650 --> 02:09:50,650
described and measured as a matter of

2694
02:09:55,110 --> 02:09:52,660
fact by Flinders Petrie so he described

2695
02:09:58,350 --> 02:09:55,120
the he described this varying course

2696
02:10:02,400 --> 02:09:58,360
thickness in his eighteen I think it was

2697
02:10:04,650 --> 02:10:02,410
1883 publication and for those who don't

2698
02:10:06,900 --> 02:10:04,660
know his Petrie is you know considered

2699
02:10:08,910 --> 02:10:06,910
the grandfather of archaeology so he's a

2700
02:10:12,120 --> 02:10:08,920
British surveyor who went to Egypt in

2701
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:12,130
the 1880s and he did meticulous

2702
02:10:16,140 --> 02:10:14,770
measuring of the monuments and one of

2703
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:16,150
the things that he did he basically

2704
02:10:20,190 --> 02:10:17,920
measured the thickness of each course

2705
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:20,200
from all four corners going up to

2706
02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:24,610
pyramid and he plotted that as you know

2707
02:10:31,230 --> 02:10:26,560
as a function of the overall height of

2708
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:31,240
the pyramid and so and then he he did so

2709
02:10:35,550 --> 02:10:33,610
he's so he noticed that and then he

2710
02:10:37,890 --> 02:10:35,560
noticed something else and this is

2711
02:10:40,070 --> 02:10:37,900
really the key to this paper and so

2712
02:10:43,290 --> 02:10:40,080
before I mentioned it I just want to

2713
02:10:44,820 --> 02:10:43,300
present two simple analogies so and then

2714
02:10:47,010 --> 02:10:44,830
it'll be much easier to explain so a

2715
02:10:48,990 --> 02:10:47,020
pyramid so the first one is if think of

2716
02:10:51,990 --> 02:10:49,000
a pyramid as a stack of squares of

2717
02:10:54,180 --> 02:10:52,000
shrinking squares and and then imagine

2718
02:10:56,370 --> 02:10:54,190
you know the bottom square is of course

2719
02:10:58,710 --> 02:10:56,380
the base and let's just call it you know

2720
02:11:00,510 --> 02:10:58,720
five by five a square that's five units

2721
02:11:02,850 --> 02:11:00,520
let's say five yards whatever you want

2722
02:11:05,340 --> 02:11:02,860
to call it and so it's five by five is

2723
02:11:08,340 --> 02:11:05,350
twenty five right and then you pick any

2724
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:08,350
square higher up and so it's a smaller

2725
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:10,090
square because it's a stack of shrinking

2726
02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:12,400
squares and let's say pick a square

2727
02:11:18,390 --> 02:11:14,860
that's 2 by 2 so that's 4 so we have 4

2728
02:11:20,250 --> 02:11:18,400
and we have 25 and so that's that ratio

2729
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:20,260
is for 25th

2730
02:11:27,510 --> 02:11:25,930
and the four is a round number and and

2731
02:11:30,930 --> 02:11:27,520
then let's give you an example let's say

2732
02:11:32,850 --> 02:11:30,940
3 by 3 is 9 divided by 25 is 925 so 4

2733
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:32,860
and 9 are round numbers they're integers

2734
02:11:38,070 --> 02:11:36,490
as opposed to let's say two and a half

2735
02:11:40,020 --> 02:11:38,080
by two and a half so we take another

2736
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:40,030
square up the pyramid is two and a half

2737
02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:42,130
by two and a half it's six six and a

2738
02:11:46,380 --> 02:11:45,250
quarter that's not a round number so so

2739
02:11:47,940 --> 02:11:46,390
I just want to make that distinction

2740
02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:47,950
because that becomes important so when

2741
02:11:52,980 --> 02:11:50,830
we divide the surface of a square up the

2742
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:52,990
pyramid divided by the base and we get a

2743
02:11:57,720 --> 02:11:55,930
certain ratio if it's if it's a round

2744
02:11:59,670 --> 02:11:57,730
number of fraction it's you know

2745
02:12:02,040 --> 02:11:59,680
something like four five twenty fifths

2746
02:12:03,660 --> 02:12:02,050
six twenty fifths if it's not a round

2747
02:12:07,050 --> 02:12:03,670
fraction then it's something like six

2748
02:12:09,750 --> 02:12:07,060
point twenty five or you know 3.37 some

2749
02:12:12,270 --> 02:12:09,760
you know some uneven number so that's

2750
02:12:14,730 --> 02:12:12,280
the first thing the second concept I

2751
02:12:16,980 --> 02:12:14,740
want to explain is the pyramid angle so

2752
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:16,990
in in ancient Egypt the pyramid a goal

2753
02:12:21,300 --> 02:12:19,450
was called the CeBIT and what the

2754
02:12:23,610 --> 02:12:21,310
circuit is is basically you're walking

2755
02:12:25,890 --> 02:12:23,620
up a staircase right you take a step

2756
02:12:27,870 --> 02:12:25,900
each step takes you a step higher and

2757
02:12:29,730 --> 02:12:27,880
you're also moving forward right so

2758
02:12:31,950 --> 02:12:29,740
you're basically going up and forward

2759
02:12:34,410 --> 02:12:31,960
and if you have a staircase each step is

2760
02:12:36,900 --> 02:12:34,420
the same that means you know you are

2761
02:12:40,770 --> 02:12:36,910
basically going the same you're going at

2762
02:12:42,900 --> 02:12:40,780
the same rate each step so that is sort

2763
02:12:45,900 --> 02:12:42,910
of the angle of this staircase and

2764
02:12:47,910 --> 02:12:45,910
that's called the svet now but with this

2765
02:12:49,950 --> 02:12:47,920
feathering effect you're not you don't

2766
02:12:52,350 --> 02:12:49,960
have even steps right so each step is

2767
02:12:54,270 --> 02:12:52,360
different you go let's say you go up a

2768
02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:54,280
step and then the step is deeper than

2769
02:12:57,810 --> 02:12:55,840
the previous one so it's an uneven

2770
02:13:00,090 --> 02:12:57,820
staircase nobody would ever build a

2771
02:13:03,180 --> 02:13:00,100
staircase like that but the pyramid was

2772
02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:03,190
built like that basically each course is

2773
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:06,880
not a nice even step compared to the

2774
02:13:11,310 --> 02:13:08,770
previous one and this is stress it's a

2775
02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:11,320
strange phenomenon and so in this paper

2776
02:13:18,480 --> 02:13:16,000
I am basically I I looked at Petrie's

2777
02:13:20,370 --> 02:13:18,490
numbers and Petri marked specific

2778
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:20,380
courses with these round fractions of

2779
02:13:24,810 --> 02:13:22,690
twenty fifths and when you look at those

2780
02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:24,820
courses it turns out that in the lower

2781
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:27,330
portion of the pyramid they tend to

2782
02:13:33,390 --> 02:13:31,090
coincide with ceilings of spaces in the

2783
02:13:33,989 --> 02:13:33,400
pyramid so we have we know the spaces we

2784
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:33,999
have

2785
02:13:43,140 --> 02:13:40,570
the tower above the king chamber and it

2786
02:13:46,439 --> 02:13:43,150
turns out when you look at those courses

2787
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:46,449
that are round numbers of twenty-fifths

2788
02:13:52,979 --> 02:13:50,530
okay they've run through that level in

2789
02:13:56,270 --> 02:13:52,989
the pyramid that coincides with a

2790
02:13:59,459 --> 02:13:56,280
ceiling of a space of a known space and

2791
02:14:03,899 --> 02:13:59,469
this pattern goes all the way up the

2792
02:14:06,029 --> 02:14:03,909
pyramid and based on that numerical code

2793
02:14:09,509 --> 02:14:06,039
I'm saying there has to have to be

2794
02:14:12,029 --> 02:14:09,519
spaces in the top portion of the pyramid

2795
02:14:13,890 --> 02:14:12,039
why because there is an economic cost

2796
02:14:15,239 --> 02:14:13,900
for building the pyramid like this you

2797
02:14:17,399 --> 02:14:15,249
don't like I was just saying you don't

2798
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:17,409
build a scare case with uneven stairs

2799
02:14:21,450 --> 02:14:19,599
you just make every single stair the

2800
02:14:24,149 --> 02:14:21,460
same height and the same depth that's

2801
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:24,159
the easiest way to do it but they didn't

2802
02:14:27,689 --> 02:14:26,110
do that they they varied the course

2803
02:14:29,939 --> 02:14:27,699
thickness and that's an economic cost

2804
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:29,949
that means he had to basically whoever

2805
02:14:34,229 --> 02:14:31,570
you know designed the pyramid had to

2806
02:14:35,819 --> 02:14:34,239
instruct a quarry man to cut stones with

2807
02:14:37,739 --> 02:14:35,829
different thicknesses and then there's

2808
02:14:39,839 --> 02:14:37,749
thicknesses those thicker stones had to

2809
02:14:43,049 --> 02:14:39,849
be transported up the pyramid so it

2810
02:14:45,450 --> 02:14:43,059
costs more effort more time why would

2811
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:45,460
you do that well the best way to explain

2812
02:14:49,649 --> 02:14:47,440
it is that when you have a ceiling you

2813
02:14:52,259 --> 02:14:49,659
have to protect it and so what you do is

2814
02:14:54,810 --> 02:14:52,269
you design the space you you close the

2815
02:14:57,509 --> 02:14:54,820
space at the top and then you you

2816
02:15:00,270 --> 02:14:57,519
buttress it you basically put a few

2817
02:15:02,549 --> 02:15:00,280
thicker courses above so that the

2818
02:15:07,020 --> 02:15:02,559
ceiling can hold under the weight of the

2819
02:15:09,899 --> 02:15:07,030
pyramid above I'm looking at I don't

2820
02:15:11,370 --> 02:15:09,909
know what hit this is labeled

2821
02:15:15,390 --> 02:15:11,380
everybody's gonna go and look at this

2822
02:15:18,419 --> 02:15:15,400
but the section of the passages of the

2823
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:18,429
Great Pyramid with the ratios in red

2824
02:15:24,209 --> 02:15:21,010
while black and blue too as well on the

2825
02:15:27,989 --> 02:15:24,219
outside and the correlations are pretty

2826
02:15:29,700 --> 02:15:27,999
obvious here manu yeah I think there's

2827
02:15:32,299 --> 02:15:29,710
you know John Pierre had some good

2828
02:15:36,919 --> 02:15:32,309
comments he he wasn't totally on board

2829
02:15:39,540 --> 02:15:36,929
and so he made me dig up another

2830
02:15:42,299 --> 02:15:39,550
illustration I mean first of all Peters

2831
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:42,309
illustration is very very accurate I

2832
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:44,530
think but I compared it to another

2833
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:46,890
illustration and I can pretty much match

2834
02:15:51,710 --> 02:15:48,480
all of these courses there's one

2835
02:15:54,260 --> 02:15:51,720
discrepancy course number 42 but

2836
02:15:57,740 --> 02:15:54,270
otherwise I think it's pretty tight and

2837
02:15:59,630 --> 02:15:57,750
so it's it's and the good thing is it's

2838
02:16:01,370 --> 02:15:59,640
a testable hypothesis I mean you know

2839
02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:01,380
all we have to do is scan the top

2840
02:16:05,060 --> 02:16:03,210
portion of the pyramid put the detector

2841
02:16:06,440 --> 02:16:05,070
plates a little bit higher up and we

2842
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:06,450
have the answer and we might have the

2843
02:16:10,190 --> 02:16:08,250
answer in a few months and then we can

2844
02:16:16,130 --> 02:16:10,200
say safe said it was right or wrong

2845
02:16:18,110 --> 02:16:16,140
now let's uh let's clarify again let's

2846
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:18,120
get back to the basics here we're

2847
02:16:23,980 --> 02:16:20,970
talking about each layer of stone

2848
02:16:28,670 --> 02:16:23,990
starting from layer 1 at the bottom is

2849
02:16:31,090 --> 02:16:28,680
perfectly level and an and measured as

2850
02:16:34,010 --> 02:16:31,100
level there's been enough laser and

2851
02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:34,020
digitizing of the pyramid and showing

2852
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:38,160
that over time this the level level to

2853
02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:40,530
earth has not changed they are all

2854
02:16:44,510 --> 02:16:42,090
perfectly level and the stones

2855
02:16:49,490 --> 02:16:44,520
themselves are leveled which you are

2856
02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:49,500
suggesting is that some of these levels

2857
02:16:57,080 --> 02:16:53,490
the thickness of the stones is different

2858
02:17:02,300 --> 02:16:57,090
from the preceding layer and matches up

2859
02:17:05,390 --> 02:17:02,310
with known ceilings and anomalies on the

2860
02:17:07,850 --> 02:17:05,400
inside of the pyramid right now at the

2861
02:17:09,500 --> 02:17:07,860
most the best example that anybody can

2862
02:17:11,870 --> 02:17:09,510
see from you know standing in front of

2863
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:11,880
the pyramid is course number 235 when

2864
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:13,200
you stand in front of the Great Pyramid

2865
02:17:17,930 --> 02:17:16,080
you look up you know about you know

2866
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:17,940
something like 20 degrees up you see

2867
02:17:22,910 --> 02:17:20,130
this definitely much thicker course and

2868
02:17:26,300 --> 02:17:22,920
that's course number 35 and it turns out

2869
02:17:30,830 --> 02:17:26,310
that course sits right on top of the

2870
02:17:33,080 --> 02:17:30,840
ceiling of the Queen chamber that's a

2871
02:17:36,709 --> 02:17:33,090
that's the easiest one to see and it's

2872
02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:36,719
also on the top of the Grand Gallery it

2873
02:17:43,250 --> 02:17:41,370
is porous it cut it sort of yeah sort of

2874
02:17:45,530 --> 02:17:43,260
crosses yes of course it crosses the

2875
02:17:47,660 --> 02:17:45,540
Grand Gallery but it doesn't coincide

2876
02:17:49,580 --> 02:17:47,670
with the ceiling of the Grand Gallery

2877
02:17:52,700 --> 02:17:49,590
but it perfectly correlates with the

2878
02:17:54,709 --> 02:17:52,710
ceiling of the Queen chamber right so so

2879
02:17:59,480 --> 02:17:54,719
what I'm saying is that the architect

2880
02:18:01,161 --> 02:17:59,490
made that course that way because you

2881
02:18:04,161 --> 02:18:01,171
wanted to insert a chamber

2882
02:18:06,220 --> 02:18:04,171
at that he wanted to finish the ceiling

2883
02:18:12,951 --> 02:18:06,230
of a chamber at that particular level

2884
02:18:15,770 --> 02:18:12,961
now let's go up above the v relieving

2885
02:18:21,041 --> 02:18:15,780
chamber what are you showing here right

2886
02:18:25,791 --> 02:18:21,051
so this is course number 84 and 84 runs

2887
02:18:27,951 --> 02:18:25,801
across the top of the granite tower now

2888
02:18:29,361 --> 02:18:27,961
there's an interesting thing about I

2889
02:18:32,451 --> 02:18:29,371
don't know if you have time to go into

2890
02:18:34,281 --> 02:18:32,461
this but I'll just mention it real quick

2891
02:18:38,630 --> 02:18:34,291
in passing so there's an interesting

2892
02:18:41,510 --> 02:18:38,640
thing about the 8th 8th 25th and 5 25th

2893
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:41,520
those those particular courses because

2894
02:18:46,491 --> 02:18:44,010
they're not really round numbers so it's

2895
02:18:48,710 --> 02:18:46,501
not 8th it's actually you know sort of

2896
02:18:50,451 --> 02:18:48,720
an uneven number and the same is with

2897
02:18:52,850 --> 02:18:50,461
five but the other not the other ones

2898
02:18:55,340 --> 02:18:52,860
all the way up are pretty tight and

2899
02:18:57,281 --> 02:18:55,350
Petrie of course marked all of these

2900
02:19:01,041 --> 02:18:57,291
particular courses in his in his

2901
02:19:02,980 --> 02:19:01,051
illustration so how do you so you know I

2902
02:19:05,750 --> 02:19:02,990
thought I was trying to explain this and

2903
02:19:07,460 --> 02:19:05,760
my explanation and of course I could be

2904
02:19:09,050 --> 02:19:07,470
wrong but my explanation is you know I'm

2905
02:19:11,930 --> 02:19:09,060
it well I talked about in the paper how

2906
02:19:14,060 --> 02:19:11,940
8 and 5 are theologically important

2907
02:19:16,071 --> 02:19:14,070
numbers to the ancient Egyptians it has

2908
02:19:18,140 --> 02:19:16,081
to do with astronomy it has to do with

2909
02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:18,150
the cycle of Venus versus the cycle of

2910
02:19:22,730 --> 02:19:20,610
series because that's an 8 to 5

2911
02:19:24,291 --> 02:19:22,740
correlation and the architecture shows

2912
02:19:25,581 --> 02:19:24,301
it so you can go to my doom pyramid

2913
02:19:28,190 --> 02:19:25,591
compared to the Great Pyramid and

2914
02:19:31,190 --> 02:19:28,200
they're related by 5/8 so 5 and 8 are

2915
02:19:33,350 --> 02:19:31,200
important numbers and there's more

2916
02:19:34,550 --> 02:19:33,360
examples so we can you know if we would

2917
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:34,560
probably not have time to get into it

2918
02:19:40,090 --> 02:19:37,650
but anyways so in this sequence from 10

2919
02:19:44,060 --> 02:19:40,100
twenty fifths all the way up to 101

2920
02:19:47,090 --> 02:19:44,070
125th the five and eight positions are

2921
02:19:48,590 --> 02:19:47,100
uneven and so what does that mean so my

2922
02:19:52,011 --> 02:19:48,600
interpretation in this paper is that

2923
02:19:54,051 --> 02:19:52,021
those are special courses why are they

2924
02:19:55,671 --> 02:19:54,061
special is this are they special because

2925
02:19:58,371 --> 02:19:55,681
there is a space or because there isn't

2926
02:20:00,111 --> 02:19:58,381
a space so the way I'm interpreting it

2927
02:20:03,321 --> 02:20:00,121
is that it's a space that's hidden

2928
02:20:05,661 --> 02:20:03,331
that's not supposed to be known so you

2929
02:20:09,291 --> 02:20:05,671
know if you go so because the granite

2930
02:20:10,671 --> 02:20:09,301
Tower really wasn't a known space and it

2931
02:20:12,650 --> 02:20:10,681
might not be the granite tower it could

2932
02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,660
be the possible it could be the big void

2933
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:15,120
actually so it turns out that number

2934
02:20:22,730 --> 02:20:19,920
eighty-four crosses above just above the

2935
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:22,740
big void and if the big void is real

2936
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:26,370
then that is what may be designated by

2937
02:20:31,250 --> 02:20:29,490
that particular course number 84 so it's

2938
02:20:34,040 --> 02:20:31,260
not the granite tower actually it's the

2939
02:20:38,110 --> 02:20:34,050
big void yeah I'm looking at it here and

2940
02:20:40,970 --> 02:20:38,120
moving up above that yeah the numbers

2941
02:20:44,210 --> 02:20:40,980
and the ratio between them this is my

2942
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:44,220
visual I'm not looking at the math but

2943
02:20:50,660 --> 02:20:46,080
my eyes are saying that there is

2944
02:20:56,500 --> 02:20:50,670
something consistent here with 89 97 107

2945
02:21:00,110 --> 02:20:56,510
115 129 143 161 179 and 195 that

2946
02:21:02,750 --> 02:21:00,120
something is consistent here now all of

2947
02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:02,760
this this is to the audience this is all

2948
02:21:09,290 --> 02:21:06,210
above the granite tower of the relieving

2949
02:21:14,210 --> 02:21:09,300
chambers right yes

2950
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:14,220
so my what I think is going on is there

2951
02:21:20,210 --> 02:21:15,930
are so there are six I think there are

2952
02:21:24,380 --> 02:21:20,220
six spaces but there's two spaces the a

2953
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:24,390
25th and 525th they're special they had

2954
02:21:28,700 --> 02:21:26,370
some special meaning to the architect

2955
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:28,710
and I think that is where we're going to

2956
02:21:34,820 --> 02:21:30,450
find if we're ever going to be able to

2957
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:34,830
see inside something mind-boggling about

2958
02:21:42,110 --> 02:21:39,210
this pyramid something that that so the

2959
02:21:45,980 --> 02:21:42,120
Great Pyramid has not revealed all of

2960
02:21:48,470 --> 02:21:45,990
its secrets and I think the key to the

2961
02:21:51,560 --> 02:21:48,480
secret of the Great Pyramid is in those

2962
02:21:54,410 --> 02:21:51,570
two levels there's two ceilings I think

2963
02:21:56,540 --> 02:21:54,420
of two small chambers and that's where

2964
02:21:58,580 --> 02:21:56,550
the money is now which I not the money

2965
02:22:00,261 --> 02:21:58,590
money the money in terms of them right

2966
02:22:02,540 --> 02:22:00,271
it's called the cultural treasure base

2967
02:22:05,841 --> 02:22:02,550
and and what numbers are we looking at

2968
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:05,851
here what are you thinking it would be 8

2969
02:22:14,390 --> 02:22:12,090
so 8 2015 10 she the first one and the

2970
02:22:18,530 --> 02:22:14,400
second one is number 107

2971
02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:18,540
so of course number 107 is is the it's

2972
02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:20,490
where the surface the surface ratio is

2973
02:22:24,770 --> 02:22:22,250
525

2974
02:22:28,280 --> 02:22:24,780
it turns out it's not it's not a round

2975
02:22:29,679 --> 02:22:28,290
number 5 2015 number and the numbers are

2976
02:22:33,550 --> 02:22:29,689
in the paper

2977
02:22:35,319 --> 02:22:33,560
so I think those two are special all the

2978
02:22:37,210 --> 02:22:35,329
other spaces they could be logistic

2979
02:22:39,370 --> 02:22:37,220
Jimmy I don't know

2980
02:22:41,469 --> 02:22:39,380
so I'm saying six spaces maybe there are

2981
02:22:45,479 --> 02:22:41,479
logistical species maybe so I you know I

2982
02:22:47,620 --> 02:22:45,489
said to hold on maybe this is

2983
02:22:49,439 --> 02:22:47,630
circumstantial evidence that the

2984
02:22:53,290 --> 02:22:49,449
internal ramp theory is still alive and

2985
02:22:54,699 --> 02:22:53,300
maybe the scan will corroborate it you

2986
02:22:57,250 --> 02:22:54,709
know so that's one way you can interpret

2987
02:22:59,559 --> 02:22:57,260
it but I am more focused on those two

2988
02:23:01,540 --> 02:22:59,569
specific levels five and eight twenty

2989
02:23:03,460 --> 02:23:01,550
fifth and five twenty fifth because I

2990
02:23:06,660 --> 02:23:03,470
think there is something there that the

2991
02:23:10,599 --> 02:23:06,670
architect wanted to hide well but then

2992
02:23:12,729 --> 02:23:10,609
129 and 195 are also very interesting to

2993
02:23:15,279 --> 02:23:12,739
me too as well and I've often thought

2994
02:23:17,559 --> 02:23:15,289
that there must be something at the top

2995
02:23:19,599 --> 02:23:17,569
of the pyramid yes it would also be the

2996
02:23:20,349 --> 02:23:19,609
easiest thing to build - you have less

2997
02:23:23,559 --> 02:23:20,359
rocks

2998
02:23:26,380 --> 02:23:23,569
yes putting into place absolutely if I

2999
02:23:28,330 --> 02:23:26,390
work who if I if let's say well let me

3000
02:23:31,540 --> 02:23:28,340
be open mind let's say whoever built

3001
02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:31,550
this pyramid who ever wanted to make

3002
02:23:39,460 --> 02:23:34,130
this statement if I were that person he

3003
02:23:42,609 --> 02:23:39,470
or she I would want to be inside the top

3004
02:23:44,590 --> 02:23:42,619
somehow up there so I can see the world

3005
02:23:45,699 --> 02:23:44,600
from the top that's right that's right

3006
02:23:47,679 --> 02:23:45,709
yeah

3007
02:23:50,290 --> 02:23:47,689
maybe it's almost you know it's bizarre

3008
02:23:51,880 --> 02:23:50,300
that there was no easy way to get to the

3009
02:23:55,689 --> 02:23:51,890
top you built this mountain and then

3010
02:23:57,939 --> 02:23:55,699
there's no way to get up there and

3011
02:24:00,250 --> 02:23:57,949
you're a when you and when you are up

3012
02:24:02,290 --> 02:24:00,260
there you're seeing you're practically

3013
02:24:05,349 --> 02:24:02,300
seeing the circumference of the earth

3014
02:24:07,899 --> 02:24:05,359
you've got an unobstructed view well

3015
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:07,909
south east and west and wouldn't you

3016
02:24:16,540 --> 02:24:13,010
want that how do i that that panoramic

3017
02:24:18,849 --> 02:24:16,550
that cinematic thing to be part of who

3018
02:24:21,160 --> 02:24:18,859
you are right then yeah you know that's

3019
02:24:23,349 --> 02:24:21,170
why everybody climbs to the top right

3020
02:24:24,699 --> 02:24:23,359
and you you know we have sort of proof

3021
02:24:28,540 --> 02:24:24,709
of exactly what you're saying because

3022
02:24:31,330 --> 02:24:28,550
Judah Frey you know Khufu son he built a

3023
02:24:33,279 --> 02:24:31,340
pyramid on an I on a hill just so you

3024
02:24:36,130 --> 02:24:33,289
know ten kilometers 15 kilometers to the

3025
02:24:37,389 --> 02:24:36,140
north he wanted to be up there so so

3026
02:24:40,540 --> 02:24:37,399
there was something about being high

3027
02:24:42,610 --> 02:24:40,550
high up there so if he wanted it why

3028
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:42,620
didn't go for one that's

3029
02:24:47,500 --> 02:24:45,530
exactly right and now okay let me ask

3030
02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:47,510
you this before I mean can I keep you

3031
02:24:52,930 --> 02:24:50,090
for a little overtime tonight sure okay

3032
02:25:00,660 --> 02:24:52,940
so ours Jimmy yeah let's do it let's do

3033
02:25:04,810 --> 02:25:00,670
us time now we this is we have a 2d or

3034
02:25:06,910 --> 02:25:04,820
1d or 2d representation here we have the

3035
02:25:07,450 --> 02:25:06,920
height right we have the positioning of

3036
02:25:11,950 --> 02:25:07,460
the height

3037
02:25:17,051 --> 02:25:11,960
what about triangulation to now find the

3038
02:25:20,110 --> 02:25:17,061
position of the chambers yeah so the

3039
02:25:22,900 --> 02:25:20,120
well remember so the the course is Marx

3040
02:25:24,670 --> 02:25:22,910
in in this model marks the ceiling of

3041
02:25:26,740 --> 02:25:24,680
the chamber and by the way this is also

3042
02:25:28,450 --> 02:25:26,750
what Rudolf gotten Brinke I have to

3043
02:25:32,020 --> 02:25:28,460
bring him in because he's really the one

3044
02:25:35,290 --> 02:25:32,030
who first described this phenomenon that

3045
02:25:37,690 --> 02:25:35,300
the design is focused on ceilings not

3046
02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:37,700
ground not not the ground level this is

3047
02:25:43,210 --> 02:25:40,690
a very important concept okay

3048
02:25:45,341 --> 02:25:43,220
architectural speaking so he's the first

3049
02:25:48,011 --> 02:25:45,351
one who described it but he of course he

3050
02:25:50,380 --> 02:25:48,021
wasn't focused on surface ratios he was

3051
02:25:53,380 --> 02:25:50,390
focused on distances and in his

3052
02:25:54,970 --> 02:25:53,390
publication he's basically saying you

3053
02:25:57,850 --> 02:25:54,980
know that the distances were all

3054
02:26:01,480 --> 02:25:57,860
multiples of 17 and 11 qubits and there

3055
02:26:04,350 --> 02:26:01,490
are some prime numbers and but most of

3056
02:26:07,900 --> 02:26:04,360
most of that design is in the horizontal

3057
02:26:09,670 --> 02:26:07,910
dimension this what I'm proposing is the

3058
02:26:11,650 --> 02:26:09,680
vertical growth of the pyramid so

3059
02:26:13,450 --> 02:26:11,660
whoever designed this and of course I

3060
02:26:14,770 --> 02:26:13,460
think it was him you know you will

3061
02:26:16,390 --> 02:26:14,780
probably disagree with that because

3062
02:26:21,880 --> 02:26:16,400
you're saying it was it's prehistoric

3063
02:26:24,091 --> 02:26:21,890
but be that as it may the the vertical

3064
02:26:26,140 --> 02:26:24,101
growth of the pyramid had to be also

3065
02:26:28,630 --> 02:26:26,150
pre-planned it had to be sort of

3066
02:26:30,490 --> 02:26:28,640
conceptualized and I think that's a good

3067
02:26:32,170 --> 02:26:30,500
it's an it's something that I wouldn't

3068
02:26:34,810 --> 02:26:32,180
think about it this way but now that I

3069
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:34,820
see it it makes a lot of sense he

3070
02:26:39,130 --> 02:26:36,880
basically consider or he or she

3071
02:26:41,020 --> 02:26:39,140
conceptualized this in in terms of

3072
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:41,030
ratios and that way you had sort of a

3073
02:26:46,720 --> 02:26:44,090
feel for how fast you're going up to

3074
02:26:48,280 --> 02:26:46,730
pyramid and what's the what's the amount

3075
02:26:51,100 --> 02:26:48,290
of stone that you need to build a

3076
02:26:52,960 --> 02:26:51,110
particular level up there and then you

3077
02:26:54,761 --> 02:26:52,970
and then what you do is when you have a

3078
02:26:56,300 --> 02:26:54,771
space you have to protect the space and

3079
02:26:58,400 --> 02:26:56,310
so what you do is you suddenly

3080
02:27:00,950 --> 02:26:58,410
increase the height of the courses

3081
02:27:03,100 --> 02:27:00,960
immediately above so you take the

3082
02:27:05,660 --> 02:27:03,110
pressure off you basically

3083
02:27:09,470 --> 02:27:05,670
bolster against the pressure that's

3084
02:27:12,650 --> 02:27:09,480
coming from above well there that part

3085
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:12,660
of it which is is something that I think

3086
02:27:17,750 --> 02:27:15,450
about often but you know what I'm gonna

3087
02:27:19,880 --> 02:27:17,760
take it one step further there is that

3088
02:27:22,850 --> 02:27:19,890
and it's very complex and it's heavy

3089
02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:22,860
engineering even by today's technology

3090
02:27:26,330 --> 02:27:23,730
yes

3091
02:27:29,780 --> 02:27:26,340
crazy crazy engineering that is involved

3092
02:27:32,570 --> 02:27:29,790
but there's one other thing that I can't

3093
02:27:36,500 --> 02:27:32,580
wrap my head around and you brought up

3094
02:27:40,010 --> 02:27:36,510
Rudolf who's still I hold in the highest

3095
02:27:44,060 --> 02:27:40,020
regard yeah the Rudolf gate and bring is

3096
02:27:45,830 --> 02:27:44,070
that each one of these sections of the

3097
02:27:51,350 --> 02:27:45,840
pyramid whether it's the Grand Gallery

3098
02:27:55,160 --> 02:27:51,360
or the King's Chamber and all of the all

3099
02:27:58,610 --> 02:27:55,170
of the shafts that came out of the

3100
02:28:02,540 --> 02:27:58,620
pyramid all of that the stones have to

3101
02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:02,550
be built around and pre-planned for all

3102
02:28:06,440 --> 02:28:03,210
of this

3103
02:28:09,590 --> 02:28:06,450
those those shafts exiting the pyramid

3104
02:28:14,150 --> 02:28:09,600
they sound simple but you're talking

3105
02:28:16,580 --> 02:28:14,160
about 5070 layers of stone that are

3106
02:28:20,870 --> 02:28:16,590
built around each one of those shafts

3107
02:28:25,550 --> 02:28:20,880
and allow the shafts to be there why do

3108
02:28:30,560 --> 02:28:25,560
not understand how that was done yeah

3109
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:30,570
unless maybe and and one of the is that

3110
02:28:35,900 --> 02:28:33,210
it was built solid and then they board

3111
02:28:38,150 --> 02:28:35,910
the shafts out right well that sounds

3112
02:28:41,570 --> 02:28:38,160
impossible but it would give you a clean

3113
02:28:42,980 --> 02:28:41,580
shaft right okay right okay that's

3114
02:28:46,100 --> 02:28:42,990
actually that's a great point you just

3115
02:28:49,700 --> 02:28:46,110
made and we've gotten brings said that

3116
02:28:51,260 --> 02:28:49,710
that would cause instability so exactly

3117
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:51,270
what you just said they couldn't do that

3118
02:28:54,470 --> 02:28:53,130
so they did it to heart they have to do

3119
02:28:56,960 --> 02:28:54,480
it the hard way which is what you first

3120
02:28:59,990 --> 02:28:56,970
said they had to construct the shafts

3121
02:29:03,740 --> 02:29:00,000
around each piece by piece with each one

3122
02:29:06,830 --> 02:29:03,750
and and still somehow create a perfectly

3123
02:29:10,099 --> 02:29:06,840
straight shaft right now we're talking

3124
02:29:15,289 --> 02:29:10,109
about five thousand years ago

3125
02:29:19,489 --> 02:29:15,299
yes yeah man I you know I just I can't I

3126
02:29:22,939 --> 02:29:19,499
can't accept it my mind says no well you

3127
02:29:24,499 --> 02:29:22,949
asked Robert Bauval and he will tell you

3128
02:29:27,319 --> 02:29:24,509
know Robert of could you know he's an

3129
02:29:29,179 --> 02:29:27,329
engineer he's an engineer and but the

3130
02:29:30,589 --> 02:29:29,189
purpose of the shafts right so you just

3131
02:29:32,479 --> 02:29:30,599
bring an excellent point you're saying

3132
02:29:34,639 --> 02:29:32,489
why would you put this much effort into

3133
02:29:35,419 --> 02:29:34,649
building these shafts when they're just

3134
02:29:38,269 --> 02:29:35,429
an air shaft

3135
02:29:41,059 --> 02:29:38,279
and that's a that's exactly the problem

3136
02:29:43,099 --> 02:29:41,069
right so I think the only reason why you

3137
02:29:46,969 --> 02:29:43,109
put so much effort into building the

3138
02:29:49,099 --> 02:29:46,979
shaft is if it has a really strong there

3139
02:29:51,379 --> 02:29:49,109
is a there has to be a heavy reason like

3140
02:29:53,059 --> 02:29:51,389
you know a theological reason something

3141
02:29:54,469 --> 02:29:53,069
like that to put all this effort in it

3142
02:29:58,639 --> 02:29:54,479
and that's of course what Paul is saying

3143
02:30:00,619 --> 02:29:58,649
that the shafts are aiming for stars

3144
02:30:03,050 --> 02:30:00,629
stars yeah absolutely

3145
02:30:04,639 --> 02:30:03,060
let's take a break right here and we'll

3146
02:30:06,499 --> 02:30:04,649
just continue the fascinating

3147
02:30:09,079 --> 02:30:06,509
conversation I absolutely love it

3148
02:30:11,689 --> 02:30:09,089
there's nothing like Egypt talk on fade

3149
02:30:13,879 --> 02:30:11,699
to black money it's my favorite thing to

3150
02:30:15,260 --> 02:30:13,889
do let's take a break right here we'll

3151
02:30:16,279 --> 02:30:15,270
do some overtime with funding right

3152
02:30:19,189 --> 02:30:16,289
after this short break

3153
02:30:20,689 --> 02:30:19,199
I am your host Jimmy Church this is fade

3154
02:30:22,510 --> 02:30:20,699
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3155
02:30:25,399 --> 02:30:22,520
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3156
02:30:27,529 --> 02:30:25,409
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3157
02:30:30,350 --> 02:30:27,539
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3158
02:30:53,340 --> 02:30:50,510
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3159
02:30:56,040 --> 02:30:53,350
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3160
02:31:01,460 --> 02:30:56,050
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02:31:05,671 --> 02:31:01,470
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02:31:08,720 --> 02:31:05,681
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02:31:11,640 --> 02:31:08,730
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3165
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3166
02:31:20,291 --> 02:31:17,841
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02:31:22,600 --> 02:31:20,301
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3168
02:31:24,610 --> 02:31:22,610
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3243
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welcome back fade to black

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our guest tonight money saves a day is

3245
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:25,890
with us we're discussing his paper that

3246
02:35:32,960 --> 02:35:29,010
was just published today we'll get the

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02:35:34,370 --> 02:35:32,970
links up to that for everybody after the

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02:35:37,370 --> 02:35:34,380
show and throughout tomorrow where you

3249
02:35:41,540 --> 02:35:37,380
can go and read this and Manu

3250
02:35:44,510 --> 02:35:41,550
one of the things as I read through the

3251
02:35:46,699 --> 02:35:44,520
paper a couple of times now one of the

3252
02:35:53,199 --> 02:35:46,709
things that is suggested here which I

3253
02:35:56,149 --> 02:35:53,209
fully understand is extreme complex math

3254
02:36:01,370 --> 02:35:56,159
that has to have been incorporated into

3255
02:36:06,010 --> 02:36:01,380
the building here we're talking about 25

3256
02:36:10,219 --> 02:36:06,020
50 BC 20 say if we you know go with

3257
02:36:12,949 --> 02:36:10,229
Orthodox Dogma all right okay

3258
02:36:15,139 --> 02:36:12,959
but that's what you are suggesting here

3259
02:36:19,639 --> 02:36:15,149
and I totally understand that and accept

3260
02:36:23,330 --> 02:36:19,649
that but the Egyptians if we understand

3261
02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:23,340
what Egyptologists tell us they didn't

3262
02:36:29,660 --> 02:36:26,850
have this type of math back then we

3263
02:36:32,750 --> 02:36:29,670
can't have one without the other so how

3264
02:36:35,059 --> 02:36:32,760
are you going to tackle that criticism

3265
02:36:37,519 --> 02:36:35,069
when it comes about this paper yeah

3266
02:36:40,639 --> 02:36:37,529
that's a that's a great point so the

3267
02:36:42,290 --> 02:36:40,649
math actually that I see here you know

3268
02:36:44,149 --> 02:36:42,300
what I'm describing this paper I see

3269
02:36:46,460 --> 02:36:44,159
that math in the mastaba

3270
02:36:48,949 --> 02:36:46,470
Amy you know of course that's another

3271
02:36:52,189 --> 02:36:48,959
talk and you know we we can talk about

3272
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:52,199
all that next time we chat but this is a

3273
02:36:58,040 --> 02:36:55,050
this is a great point I in order to make

3274
02:37:01,849 --> 02:36:58,050
the case that the pyramid was built in

3275
02:37:03,469 --> 02:37:01,859
the old kingdom you have to really the

3276
02:37:06,380 --> 02:37:03,479
gold standard would be to have an archer

3277
02:37:07,849 --> 02:37:06,390
and an architectural blueprint which of

3278
02:37:10,699 --> 02:37:07,859
course we don't have we don't have any

3279
02:37:13,790 --> 02:37:10,709
written evidence that of the design

3280
02:37:16,429 --> 02:37:13,800
having been made then but the

3281
02:37:19,519 --> 02:37:16,439
fascinating thing is that we may have it

3282
02:37:21,679 --> 02:37:19,529
in a numerical form and that is the

3283
02:37:23,029 --> 02:37:21,689
mastaba of him you know is G 4000 it's

3284
02:37:25,399 --> 02:37:23,039
in the West field it's one of the

3285
02:37:28,399 --> 02:37:25,409
largest mustapha's in the cemeteries

3286
02:37:31,210 --> 02:37:28,409
there and him you know is the purported

3287
02:37:35,081 --> 02:37:31,220
architect of the Great Pyramid

3288
02:37:38,060 --> 02:37:35,091
and so this math

3289
02:37:39,680 --> 02:37:38,070
the the numbers that I see in the

3290
02:37:41,360 --> 02:37:39,690
mastaba and then you know again it's and

3291
02:37:43,581 --> 02:37:41,370
it's another talk we can talk about it

3292
02:37:45,921 --> 02:37:43,591
so but when you're talking about complex

3293
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:45,931
mathematics you know I thought you were

3294
02:37:49,060 --> 02:37:47,280
talking about the type of mathematics

3295
02:37:52,131 --> 02:37:49,070
that for example Alan Green has

3296
02:37:54,381 --> 02:37:52,141
described or or Gary Osborne you know I

3297
02:37:57,381 --> 02:37:54,391
mean these are great analyses I highly

3298
02:38:00,081 --> 02:37:57,391
respect you know the two of them and

3299
02:38:03,020 --> 02:38:00,091
they were of course say there's no way

3300
02:38:06,261 --> 02:38:03,030
that that type of math was you know at

3301
02:38:08,841 --> 02:38:06,271
hand in his time I do have an answer for

3302
02:38:11,690 --> 02:38:08,851
that but I think I want to let their

3303
02:38:14,270 --> 02:38:11,700
theory stand for now I think they make

3304
02:38:17,751 --> 02:38:14,280
great points and I know you've you're

3305
02:38:19,310 --> 02:38:17,761
familiar with them and I think I think

3306
02:38:21,411 --> 02:38:19,320
that's the beauty of it we have a do we

3307
02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:21,421
have a healthy debate we have a we have

3308
02:38:24,711 --> 02:38:23,250
a scientific debate between the

3309
02:38:27,591 --> 02:38:24,721
different parties and that's the way it

3310
02:38:30,051 --> 02:38:27,601
should be well we have we have two ways

3311
02:38:33,381 --> 02:38:30,061
to look at this and that they're very

3312
02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:33,391
simple either all of the math is

3313
02:38:40,341 --> 02:38:37,200
coincidence and luck and you could find

3314
02:38:42,740 --> 02:38:40,351
this kind of fascinating math in in a

3315
02:38:45,860 --> 02:38:42,750
bar stool right if it's elegantly

3316
02:38:47,331 --> 02:38:45,870
designed you guess it but you can get

3317
02:38:48,921 --> 02:38:47,341
pie out of it you can get the

3318
02:38:50,690 --> 02:38:48,931
circumference of the earth out of it you

3319
02:38:53,511 --> 02:38:50,700
could probably get the speed of light

3320
02:38:55,761 --> 02:38:53,521
out of a barstool if you sat there and

3321
02:38:57,140 --> 02:38:55,771
did right and this is really different

3322
02:39:02,801 --> 02:38:57,150
with a lot of years right right

3323
02:39:06,110 --> 02:39:02,811
certainly or they did have a grasp of

3324
02:39:11,680 --> 02:39:06,120
complex math and and geometry and

3325
02:39:16,671 --> 02:39:11,690
algebra and things that weren't proven

3326
02:39:18,591 --> 02:39:16,681
for 2,000 years yeah you thousand I'm so

3327
02:39:21,650 --> 02:39:18,601
happy that you bring this up because

3328
02:39:25,190 --> 02:39:21,660
this is one of my pet peeves there is a

3329
02:39:27,381 --> 02:39:25,200
third path Jimmy so the way you just

3330
02:39:30,261 --> 02:39:27,391
said it beautifully either it's random

3331
02:39:33,020 --> 02:39:30,271
chance or is intentional but see right

3332
02:39:34,820 --> 02:39:33,030
there's a third possibility and we have

3333
02:39:38,530 --> 02:39:34,830
to exclude it and that third possibility

3334
02:39:41,331 --> 02:39:38,540
is incidental occurrence so what is that

3335
02:39:43,490 --> 02:39:41,341
an incidental occurred for it I'll give

3336
02:39:46,220 --> 02:39:43,500
you a simple example if you design if

3337
02:39:48,020 --> 02:39:46,230
you design anything based on a square

3338
02:39:49,730 --> 02:39:48,030
you are incident

3339
02:39:51,020 --> 02:39:49,740
Lee also importing the square root of

3340
02:39:52,190 --> 02:39:51,030
two okay

3341
02:39:55,190 --> 02:39:52,200
now the square root of two is an

3342
02:39:57,470 --> 02:39:55,200
irrational number and nobody would say

3343
02:39:59,060 --> 02:39:57,480
that the ancients knew the square root

3344
02:40:01,850 --> 02:39:59,070
of two because it's a number that never

3345
02:40:05,261 --> 02:40:01,860
ends right but simply by designing

3346
02:40:07,640 --> 02:40:05,271
something that's a square you are also

3347
02:40:10,700 --> 02:40:07,650
incorporating a diagonal between the

3348
02:40:13,131 --> 02:40:10,710
corners and the diagonal is related to

3349
02:40:15,591 --> 02:40:13,141
the square root of two so does that mean

3350
02:40:17,660 --> 02:40:15,601
that the designer of a square building

3351
02:40:20,150 --> 02:40:17,670
knew the square root of two no it means

3352
02:40:23,390 --> 02:40:20,160
that the square root of two is imported

3353
02:40:27,261 --> 02:40:23,400
by necessity but unwittingly

3354
02:40:30,470 --> 02:40:27,271
by virtue of the design of of a square

3355
02:40:32,690 --> 02:40:30,480
so that's not random chance and it's

3356
02:40:34,700 --> 02:40:32,700
also not intentional it's incidental and

3357
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:34,710
this is a big big point that I'm trying

3358
02:40:43,370 --> 02:40:37,920
to convey to my colleagues on the other

3359
02:40:45,820 --> 02:40:43,380
side of this incidental is fine with

3360
02:40:48,501 --> 02:40:45,830
something like that in a very basic

3361
02:40:52,341 --> 02:40:48,511
presentation okay so you have equal

3362
02:40:55,131 --> 02:40:52,351
sides and two you know the a piece of

3363
02:40:58,131 --> 02:40:55,141
string created a block that or room that

3364
02:40:59,900 --> 02:40:58,141
was / okay okay I get okay I can I come

3365
02:41:02,150 --> 02:40:59,910
wrap my head around that but then you

3366
02:41:05,801 --> 02:41:02,160
bring in the golden ratio you bring in

3367
02:41:08,751 --> 02:41:05,811
pie bringing the speed of light or the

3368
02:41:09,910 --> 02:41:08,761
circumference of the earth yeah start

3369
02:41:12,830 --> 02:41:09,920
bringing em in

3370
02:41:15,080 --> 02:41:12,840
those are all different kinds of

3371
02:41:17,120 --> 02:41:15,090
warrants you just open up okay so let me

3372
02:41:18,711 --> 02:41:17,130
just stick for example just to the just

3373
02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:18,721
for now just a pyramid itself all the

3374
02:41:24,020 --> 02:41:22,170
math that you pull out of the different

3375
02:41:25,131 --> 02:41:24,030
ratios of the different dimensions I'm

3376
02:41:26,930 --> 02:41:25,141
not talk about my paper I'm talking

3377
02:41:29,720 --> 02:41:26,940
about let's say what Alan Greenwood

3378
02:41:32,570 --> 02:41:29,730
proposed sure you could say that all of

3379
02:41:34,881 --> 02:41:32,580
that math is incidental to the pyramid

3380
02:41:37,310 --> 02:41:34,891
angle you build a pyramid based on the

3381
02:41:39,801 --> 02:41:37,320
pyramid angle of you know five and a

3382
02:41:41,660 --> 02:41:39,811
half palms per cubed and you have a

3383
02:41:44,001 --> 02:41:41,670
pyramid and that protector mydoom

3384
02:41:46,190 --> 02:41:44,011
pyramid the by doom pyramid is based on

3385
02:41:48,711 --> 02:41:46,200
exactly the same angle it's five and a

3386
02:41:50,360 --> 02:41:48,721
half pounds per cubed it's just five

3387
02:41:53,091 --> 02:41:50,370
eighths smaller than the Great Pyramid

3388
02:41:55,700 --> 02:41:53,101
all of the math and I mean all of it

3389
02:41:58,671 --> 02:41:55,710
that you can pull out of the various you

3390
02:42:01,610 --> 02:41:58,681
know observations you can pull out of

3391
02:42:01,969 --> 02:42:01,620
the mydoom pyramid - and why because

3392
02:42:04,279 --> 02:42:01,979
it's

3393
02:42:05,719 --> 02:42:04,289
pyramid based on the golden angle the

3394
02:42:09,679 --> 02:42:05,729
golden angle is five and a half pounds

3395
02:42:13,309 --> 02:42:09,689
per cubed so so is it random chance no

3396
02:42:16,090 --> 02:42:13,319
is it intentional no it's incidental to

3397
02:42:21,050 --> 02:42:16,100
the pyramid angle so this is one way to

3398
02:42:24,260 --> 02:42:21,060
to open up a third path here but I don't

3399
02:42:27,410 --> 02:42:24,270
know I I am you know I love like I said

3400
02:42:29,300 --> 02:42:27,420
I highly respect the what Alan is

3401
02:42:30,800 --> 02:42:29,310
written what Gary Osborne and others

3402
02:42:32,719 --> 02:42:30,810
suffered and I respect it because they

3403
02:42:34,489 --> 02:42:32,729
could be right and what I'm saying could

3404
02:42:36,529 --> 02:42:34,499
be wrong but I just wanted to make these

3405
02:42:39,620 --> 02:42:36,539
kids I just wanted to make this point

3406
02:42:41,599 --> 02:42:39,630
that it's not add economy it's not you

3407
02:42:45,170 --> 02:42:41,609
know black or white it's not two camps

3408
02:42:46,580 --> 02:42:45,180
it's three camps and and if as long as

3409
02:42:49,099 --> 02:42:46,590
as soon as you open up that third

3410
02:42:51,139 --> 02:42:49,109
possibility you could actually explain a

3411
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:51,149
lot not the speed of light so you

3412
02:42:54,529 --> 02:42:52,560
brought that up too and I want to make a

3413
02:42:57,349 --> 02:42:54,539
comment about that too that is one of

3414
02:43:00,649 --> 02:42:57,359
the few riddles about this pyramid the

3415
02:43:04,550 --> 02:43:00,659
position on the globe and the the the

3416
02:43:06,769 --> 02:43:04,560
latitude numerical identity with you

3417
02:43:09,019 --> 02:43:06,779
know the speed of light number that is

3418
02:43:10,719 --> 02:43:09,029
mind-boggling and I have not I have to I

3419
02:43:13,370 --> 02:43:10,729
have a video on my youtube channel

3420
02:43:16,489 --> 02:43:13,380
trying to explain it with this third

3421
02:43:17,899 --> 02:43:16,499
pathway that I'm mentioning but I am in

3422
02:43:20,359 --> 02:43:17,909
the first to tell you I have not

3423
02:43:22,969 --> 02:43:20,369
succeeded I actually went to the 30th

3424
02:43:25,519 --> 02:43:22,979
parallel in in Cairo on my last trip I I

3425
02:43:27,080 --> 02:43:25,529
wanted to see what that looks like

3426
02:43:28,760 --> 02:43:27,090
and you know what Jimmy that is an

3427
02:43:31,099 --> 02:43:28,770
archaeological site I bet you there's

3428
02:43:35,330 --> 02:43:31,109
something under that ground exactly at

3429
02:43:36,979 --> 02:43:35,340
the 30.000 zero degree latitude in

3430
02:43:39,679 --> 02:43:36,989
because that's exactly where the

3431
02:43:43,399 --> 02:43:39,689
Meridian crosses the 30th latitude it's

3432
02:43:45,229 --> 02:43:43,409
ten pyramid lengths north of the Great

3433
02:43:47,179 --> 02:43:45,239
Pyramid so if you take the Great Pyramid

3434
02:43:49,840 --> 02:43:47,189
and you move it ten times north you're

3435
02:43:52,729 --> 02:43:49,850
exactly on the thirtieth latitude and

3436
02:43:55,340 --> 02:43:52,739
there's one other point let's well

3437
02:43:59,389 --> 02:43:55,350
there's many points but let's go back to

3438
02:44:03,349 --> 02:43:59,399
what you said which is paramount

3439
02:44:06,200 --> 02:44:03,359
we don't have if if this if the pyramid

3440
02:44:08,870 --> 02:44:06,210
was done today we would have a warehouse

3441
02:44:12,819 --> 02:44:08,880
full of blueprints and design and

3442
02:44:15,711 --> 02:44:12,829
engineering it would be a ginormous

3443
02:44:18,701 --> 02:44:15,721
project a hundred

3444
02:44:22,761 --> 02:44:18,711
of drawing boards and computers and and

3445
02:44:25,031 --> 02:44:22,771
pencils just a crazy amount of thought

3446
02:44:28,911 --> 02:44:25,041
and and and expertise put into it

3447
02:44:32,631 --> 02:44:28,921
clearly we don't have that so that would

3448
02:44:35,751 --> 02:44:32,641
suggest that there was one brain behind

3449
02:44:40,341 --> 02:44:35,761
the pyramid that is literally in all of

3450
02:44:43,401 --> 02:44:40,351
these sites that is building on a whim

3451
02:44:45,591 --> 02:44:43,411
that is telling everybody what to do

3452
02:44:50,060 --> 02:44:45,601
that everything is in somebody's brain

3453
02:44:53,781 --> 02:44:50,070
yes it's it's not drawn out and I can't

3454
02:44:55,970 --> 02:44:53,791
accept that I know I agree with you it's

3455
02:44:57,441 --> 02:44:55,980
it's it's it's remarkable and of course

3456
02:45:00,890 --> 02:44:57,451
you know cosmic womb

3457
02:45:03,441 --> 02:45:00,900
Robert is proposing what one of the ways

3458
02:45:05,241 --> 02:45:03,451
- he explains it is that it's an

3459
02:45:07,430 --> 02:45:05,251
entanglement there's it's a message from

3460
02:45:10,281 --> 02:45:07,440
outer space it comes from some

3461
02:45:12,491 --> 02:45:10,291
self-aware intelligence far more

3462
02:45:15,651 --> 02:45:12,501
advanced than we are and it basically

3463
02:45:18,381 --> 02:45:15,661
inserted this brilliant idea into the

3464
02:45:20,421 --> 02:45:18,391
architects mind and this is in other

3465
02:45:24,230 --> 02:45:20,431
words this whole thing is a one-person

3466
02:45:27,350 --> 02:45:24,240
genius and that genius designed this

3467
02:45:29,121 --> 02:45:27,360
structure that's one way you can explain

3468
02:45:30,621 --> 02:45:29,131
it and and you know I remember sitting

3469
02:45:32,810 --> 02:45:30,631
with Brecker we had breakfast with

3470
02:45:35,930 --> 02:45:32,820
Robert and we were discussing you know

3471
02:45:37,371 --> 02:45:35,940
the different ways and and and he has a

3472
02:45:38,930 --> 02:45:37,381
you know yeah as always he has an

3473
02:45:42,381 --> 02:45:38,940
amazing way to think about these things

3474
02:45:43,911 --> 02:45:42,391
and I I I felt myself I had to I had to

3475
02:45:47,031 --> 02:45:43,921
go I agreed with him I said you know

3476
02:45:49,011 --> 02:45:47,041
what did you write this is possible this

3477
02:45:51,980 --> 02:45:49,021
is just a strike of a genius and it may

3478
02:45:55,251 --> 02:45:51,990
it may come from and as an exterior

3479
02:45:57,441 --> 02:45:55,261
source we the way that physics goes

3480
02:46:01,011 --> 02:45:57,451
nowadays and what we know about the

3481
02:46:02,501 --> 02:46:01,021
cosmos I think this is on the table that

3482
02:46:06,081 --> 02:46:02,511
explanation well

3483
02:46:10,341 --> 02:46:06,091
we have to try to figure out how this

3484
02:46:13,191 --> 02:46:10,351
this intelligence just surfaced at 3,000

3485
02:46:17,961 --> 02:46:13,201
BC in Egypt right suddenly they went

3486
02:46:21,411 --> 02:46:17,971
from one phase of of living in in the

3487
02:46:24,261 --> 02:46:21,421
desert and surviving to virtually

3488
02:46:25,581 --> 02:46:24,271
overnight having this knowledge and it

3489
02:46:28,279 --> 02:46:25,591
wasn't just the knowledge of

3490
02:46:30,349 --> 02:46:28,289
construction but it was Agricole

3491
02:46:33,649 --> 02:46:30,359
sure it was religion it was government

3492
02:46:38,359 --> 02:46:33,659
as taxation was laws if a lot of things

3493
02:46:39,679 --> 02:46:38,369
came into play here all overnight but

3494
02:46:43,489 --> 02:46:39,689
there's there's one other thing that

3495
02:46:46,189 --> 02:46:43,499
complicates it for me and it is the

3496
02:46:49,729 --> 02:46:46,199
building of it certainly but we've got

3497
02:46:53,209 --> 02:46:49,739
to go back to the foundation and that

3498
02:46:57,199 --> 02:46:53,219
these were perfectly oriented north

3499
02:47:01,879 --> 02:46:57,209
south east and west yes I mean not not

3500
02:47:06,079 --> 02:47:01,889
perfectly but frigging perfectly okay

3501
02:47:08,149 --> 02:47:06,089
and leveled and the knowledge of this of

3502
02:47:10,489 --> 02:47:08,159
building a foundation from an

3503
02:47:13,969 --> 02:47:10,499
engineering standpoint is something that

3504
02:47:16,309 --> 02:47:13,979
we are still coming to terms with today

3505
02:47:17,929 --> 02:47:16,319
how to build a skyscraper or how to get

3506
02:47:19,849 --> 02:47:17,939
the foundation how to get the footings

3507
02:47:22,879 --> 02:47:19,859
how to get the engineering right all of

3508
02:47:24,709 --> 02:47:22,889
that is stuff that we deal with every

3509
02:47:28,429 --> 02:47:24,719
single day we're learning it today back

3510
02:47:30,709 --> 02:47:28,439
then at 3000 BC apparently it was pretty

3511
02:47:33,709 --> 02:47:30,719
easy all right

3512
02:47:36,139 --> 02:47:33,719
yeah that's right well if they I mean of

3513
02:47:39,079 --> 02:47:36,149
course there is proposed models either

3514
02:47:42,109 --> 02:47:39,089
the Sun shadows or the stars were used

3515
02:47:44,179 --> 02:47:42,119
and the pretext also I'm I wrote about

3516
02:47:46,729 --> 02:47:44,189
this in one of my papers the pyramid

3517
02:47:49,969 --> 02:47:46,739
code origin of the pyramid code which

3518
02:47:52,189 --> 02:47:49,979
came out last year is the the reason

3519
02:47:53,689 --> 02:47:52,199
potential reason why pyramids were

3520
02:47:56,989 --> 02:47:53,699
suddenly oriented in a north-south

3521
02:47:58,909 --> 02:47:56,999
direction is because the star Alkaid

3522
02:48:02,149 --> 02:47:58,919
from the you know the Big Dipper the

3523
02:48:04,549 --> 02:48:02,159
hoof star which is what you know Robert

3524
02:48:07,069 --> 02:48:04,559
wrote about this that the jo ser pyramid

3525
02:48:08,389 --> 02:48:07,079
is set up where the little statue of Joe

3526
02:48:11,209 --> 02:48:08,399
Sara looks through their little peak

3527
02:48:13,399 --> 02:48:11,219
holes right that's that is oriented tall

3528
02:48:17,929 --> 02:48:13,409
it was oriented towards allocate the

3529
02:48:20,389 --> 02:48:17,939
star and so it turns out that and this

3530
02:48:22,899 --> 02:48:20,399
is based on the work of one Bill Monta

3531
02:48:26,359 --> 02:48:22,909
is that it's possible that arcades

3532
02:48:28,609 --> 02:48:26,369
disappeared it became it was no longer

3533
02:48:31,010 --> 02:48:28,619
imperishable it was not a star that was

3534
02:48:32,779 --> 02:48:31,020
always visible every night it suddenly

3535
02:48:34,879 --> 02:48:32,789
became and this is due to precession so

3536
02:48:37,129 --> 02:48:34,889
all of a sudden that star dipped under

3537
02:48:39,039 --> 02:48:37,139
the horizon so the Egyptians couldn't

3538
02:48:41,930 --> 02:48:39,049
see it and that was a you know sort of a

3539
02:48:44,660 --> 02:48:41,940
and paradigm changing phenom

3540
02:48:46,820 --> 02:48:44,670
and so what they did is they started

3541
02:48:49,940 --> 02:48:46,830
orienting to impairments now instead to

3542
02:48:52,280 --> 02:48:49,950
to ban which was the the North Star in

3543
02:48:54,200 --> 02:48:52,290
that time and the first pyramid that was

3544
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:54,210
oriented that way it was a small step

3545
02:48:58,910 --> 02:48:56,010
pyramid next to the mydoom pyramid so if

3546
02:49:01,370 --> 02:48:58,920
you go west about ten kilometers from my

3547
02:49:03,051 --> 02:49:01,380
doom there's a small step pyramid built

3548
02:49:04,610 --> 02:49:03,061
by sniffer oh and that is the first

3549
02:49:06,980 --> 02:49:04,620
pyramid that was oriented in that

3550
02:49:09,110 --> 02:49:06,990
direction and there's an astronomer

3551
02:49:11,591 --> 02:49:09,120
Julia mark Lee you might know him he is

3552
02:49:13,640 --> 02:49:11,601
actually they they did a detailed

3553
02:49:16,341 --> 02:49:13,650
orientation study of all Egyptian

3554
02:49:19,430 --> 02:49:16,351
monuments and I think these pyramids are

3555
02:49:21,290 --> 02:49:19,440
all you know measured but to your point

3556
02:49:25,131 --> 02:49:21,300
the Great Pyramid is the accuracy is

3557
02:49:27,470 --> 02:49:25,141
mind-boggling it's incredible and yeah

3558
02:49:29,301 --> 02:49:27,480
it you've if you want to make the case

3559
02:49:32,210 --> 02:49:29,311
that they couldn't couldn't have done it

3560
02:49:33,950 --> 02:49:32,220
I I'm not gonna put up a fight no no

3561
02:49:38,360 --> 02:49:33,960
they couldn't have done it but but yeah

3562
02:49:41,060 --> 02:49:38,370
there's the other part of this and both

3563
02:49:44,030 --> 02:49:41,070
theories can't be right okay and that is

3564
02:49:46,040 --> 02:49:44,040
this if they were doing that this is

3565
02:49:50,540 --> 02:49:46,050
what's crazy if they were aligning to

3566
02:49:53,030 --> 02:49:50,550
the stars and and getting True North out

3567
02:49:55,520 --> 02:49:53,040
of the Stars which by the way today True

3568
02:49:56,990 --> 02:49:55,530
North and the way the stars were five

3569
02:50:01,190 --> 02:49:57,000
thousand years ago now we're actually

3570
02:50:03,290 --> 02:50:01,200
off by a degree at War two and I've said

3571
02:50:05,360 --> 02:50:03,300
so I have a hard time dealing with that

3572
02:50:08,860 --> 02:50:05,370
but the other point is if we're talking

3573
02:50:15,980 --> 02:50:08,870
about doing it in the dark and I just

3574
02:50:20,060 --> 02:50:15,990
you are lining up 13 acres of land with

3575
02:50:22,070 --> 02:50:20,070
stone that is being laid as the bedrock

3576
02:50:24,740 --> 02:50:22,080
for the Great Pyramid before the the

3577
02:50:28,220 --> 02:50:24,750
pyramid was even built as that

3578
02:50:32,450 --> 02:50:28,230
foundation was leveled and orientated

3579
02:50:36,020 --> 02:50:32,460
true north at night well wait a minute

3580
02:50:39,200 --> 02:50:36,030
it just it is it doesn't work or they

3581
02:50:43,190 --> 02:50:39,210
did it with water during the day and I

3582
02:50:44,091 --> 02:50:43,200
understand that idea too but both can't

3583
02:50:47,150 --> 02:50:44,101
be right

3584
02:50:49,761 --> 02:50:47,160
see if you understand what I'm saying it

3585
02:50:51,710 --> 02:50:49,771
just doesn't make sense to me you mean

3586
02:50:53,720 --> 02:50:51,720
you mean because one one method was

3587
02:50:55,341 --> 02:50:53,730
during the day and the other yeah you're

3588
02:50:57,291 --> 02:50:55,351
leveling during the day

3589
02:51:00,890 --> 02:50:57,301
and then you're straightening it back

3590
02:51:10,640 --> 02:51:00,900
out at night to the star yeah wait you

3591
02:51:15,921 --> 02:51:13,490
what's the inaccurate it's not accurate

3592
02:51:17,390 --> 02:51:15,931
well I you know what I'm really looking

3593
02:51:18,860 --> 02:51:17,400
forward to tomorrow night when

3594
02:51:20,480 --> 02:51:18,870
Christopher done is going to be on your

3595
02:51:21,530 --> 02:51:20,490
program and you know he knows of course

3596
02:51:25,970 --> 02:51:21,540
Martin

3597
02:51:27,980 --> 02:51:25,980
Easler he knows Dennis stock and you

3598
02:51:30,650 --> 02:51:27,990
should ask him that question he said it

3599
02:51:35,541 --> 02:51:30,660
was it possible for them to do it I am I

3600
02:51:40,280 --> 02:51:35,551
can't wait this is and I'm gonna ask you

3601
02:51:41,650 --> 02:51:40,290
about this what the the historians of

3602
02:51:43,881 --> 02:51:41,660
the world whether we're talking about

3603
02:51:46,100 --> 02:51:43,891
Egyptologist or archaeologists or

3604
02:51:50,530 --> 02:51:46,110
anthropology matter they're all going to

3605
02:51:55,600 --> 02:51:50,540
tell you the same thing that at 5,000 BC

3606
02:51:59,421 --> 02:51:55,610
4000 BC 3,000 BC that was Stone Age man

3607
02:52:02,330 --> 02:51:59,431
that that was Stone Age man so they have

3608
02:52:04,190 --> 02:52:02,340
and and then they will suggest well

3609
02:52:07,430 --> 02:52:04,200
you're not giving them enough credit

3610
02:52:10,220 --> 02:52:07,440
they were actually smarter than then

3611
02:52:13,280 --> 02:52:10,230
wait a minute was it Stone Age man or

3612
02:52:16,100 --> 02:52:13,290
not that's the first thing how smart

3613
02:52:19,580 --> 02:52:16,110
were they and then the flip side of it

3614
02:52:22,461 --> 02:52:19,590
is you're asking us to accept that Stone

3615
02:52:25,461 --> 02:52:22,471
Age man had grasp of all of these

3616
02:52:28,011 --> 02:52:25,471
concepts of heavy engineering of

3617
02:52:29,180 --> 02:52:28,021
astronomy of all of this now you can't

3618
02:52:32,660 --> 02:52:29,190
have it both ways

3619
02:52:35,301 --> 02:52:32,670
and that's what they are asking us to to

3620
02:52:38,150 --> 02:52:35,311
swallow and I'm yeah that's why I go

3621
02:52:40,341 --> 02:52:38,160
with it wasn't stony it wasn't the

3622
02:52:43,280 --> 02:52:40,351
Egyptians that built it that's all that

3623
02:52:45,230 --> 02:52:43,290
I'm saying so this is what I would say I

3624
02:52:46,791 --> 02:52:45,240
mean let me put put myself in the shoes

3625
02:52:48,860 --> 02:52:46,801
of an Egyptologist they were they might

3626
02:52:50,511 --> 02:52:48,870
say to you Jimmy as if you look at first

3627
02:52:53,690 --> 02:52:50,521
dynasty mastabas

3628
02:52:56,270 --> 02:52:53,700
they're incredible they were probably

3629
02:52:58,211 --> 02:52:56,280
just as mind-boggling as the pyramids

3630
02:53:01,091 --> 02:52:58,221
and they were built in the first dynasty

3631
02:53:05,990 --> 02:53:01,101
you know on the hillsides in saqqara

3632
02:53:06,890 --> 02:53:06,000
Abydos yeah go ahead I in Abydos yes I

3633
02:53:08,300 --> 02:53:06,900
hear you

3634
02:53:11,389 --> 02:53:08,310
yes yes

3635
02:53:13,540 --> 02:53:11,399
even in even you know one of those or

3636
02:53:16,099 --> 02:53:13,550
two of those actually had a small

3637
02:53:18,349 --> 02:53:16,109
precursor of a pyramid over the burial

3638
02:53:21,849 --> 02:53:18,359
chamber so for example there's a queen

3639
02:53:24,769 --> 02:53:21,859
of junior her name was Harry Knight and

3640
02:53:27,889 --> 02:53:24,779
hers is the southernmost mastaba

3641
02:53:30,469 --> 02:53:27,899
on the on the Sakura Ridge and it's a

3642
02:53:33,290 --> 02:53:30,479
first dynasty queen and her her must

3643
02:53:35,149 --> 02:53:33,300
hurt Mustafa is huge with you know with

3644
02:53:36,469 --> 02:53:35,159
the paneled facade and with the bull

3645
02:53:41,450 --> 02:53:36,479
horns in the front it's they're

3646
02:53:45,439 --> 02:53:41,460
mind-boggling and so that that burial

3647
02:53:47,000 --> 02:53:45,449
chamber had had a pyramid like roof so

3648
02:53:48,590 --> 02:53:47,010
this is so you know an Egyptologist

3649
02:53:50,899 --> 02:53:48,600
might say well you know what they did

3650
02:53:54,740 --> 02:53:50,909
that you there's sort of a gradient of

3651
02:53:57,080 --> 02:53:54,750
gradual technology technological advance

3652
02:53:58,340 --> 02:53:57,090
and it leads up to the pyramid age you

3653
02:54:00,979 --> 02:53:58,350
know you have to step here at the small

3654
02:54:02,569 --> 02:54:00,989
step pyramids then you have just a I'm

3655
02:54:05,479 --> 02:54:02,579
sorry you have to sales pyramid then you

3656
02:54:09,740 --> 02:54:05,489
have the other step your second was a

3657
02:54:11,750 --> 02:54:09,750
sec MCAT and Kaaba the rain pyramid sure

3658
02:54:13,700 --> 02:54:11,760
right and then and then all of a sudden

3659
02:54:16,550 --> 02:54:13,710
you have to my doom pyramid and then it

3660
02:54:18,109 --> 02:54:16,560
gets cased that's and and and for and

3661
02:54:20,210 --> 02:54:18,119
then before that you have to depend

3662
02:54:22,309 --> 02:54:20,220
pyramid which gets case so they would

3663
02:54:24,229 --> 02:54:22,319
say there is a gradient but you know

3664
02:54:25,729 --> 02:54:24,239
what I I but I agree with you at some

3665
02:54:27,700 --> 02:54:25,739
point you still have the same problem

3666
02:54:30,620 --> 02:54:27,710
how did you get the stones up there

3667
02:54:32,899 --> 02:54:30,630
right how did you how did you finish the

3668
02:54:35,530 --> 02:54:32,909
pyramids in this amount of time so it's

3669
02:54:38,540 --> 02:54:35,540
always the same question so I completely

3670
02:54:41,000 --> 02:54:38,550
accept at this point both sides of this

3671
02:54:43,250 --> 02:54:41,010
equation and I think it's just you could

3672
02:54:46,429 --> 02:54:43,260
both be right yeah I when I'm reserving

3673
02:54:49,130 --> 02:54:46,439
my judgment this is and this is this is

3674
02:54:52,040 --> 02:54:49,140
my funky way of looking at that from

3675
02:54:58,219 --> 02:54:52,050
Saqqara you can see the Giza Plateau

3676
02:55:01,429 --> 02:54:58,229
right and so why not it's a very simple

3677
02:55:04,010 --> 02:55:01,439
thing your your primitive culture right

3678
02:55:06,830 --> 02:55:04,020
first dynasty you're looking across the

3679
02:55:10,130 --> 02:55:06,840
desert at the Giza Plateau and you're

3680
02:55:12,800 --> 02:55:10,140
trying to imitate what you are saying oh

3681
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:12,810
it's a good point that's it you're

3682
02:55:17,990 --> 02:55:15,359
trying to replicate that and they never

3683
02:55:19,880 --> 02:55:18,000
pulled it off right so it's that simple

3684
02:55:20,600 --> 02:55:19,890
it's not the other way around they built

3685
02:55:24,320 --> 02:55:20,610
their way up

3686
02:55:26,360 --> 02:55:24,330
and the the the other thing is this it's

3687
02:55:28,940 --> 02:55:26,370
simple math when I look at the

3688
02:55:31,280 --> 02:55:28,950
construction period of all of the

3689
02:55:34,551 --> 02:55:31,290
pyramids that were built before the

3690
02:55:38,420 --> 02:55:34,561
Great Pyramid and the plateau now we're

3691
02:55:41,540 --> 02:55:38,430
talking about hundreds of thousands of

3692
02:55:45,290 --> 02:55:41,550
people that were doing nothing but

3693
02:55:47,870 --> 02:55:45,300
building pyramids all the time what

3694
02:55:50,120 --> 02:55:47,880
that's it that you didn't have a net you

3695
02:55:52,240 --> 02:55:50,130
didn't have another gig in Egypt

3696
02:55:54,500 --> 02:55:52,250
everybody there was building pyramids

3697
02:55:56,450 --> 02:55:54,510
all right and they were going from

3698
02:55:58,250 --> 02:55:56,460
building site to building site they were

3699
02:56:01,390 --> 02:55:58,260
building these things every five or ten

3700
02:56:04,130 --> 02:56:01,400
years you know and there's you know 75

3701
02:56:08,870 --> 02:56:04,140
pyramids that were attempted before the

3702
02:56:11,660 --> 02:56:08,880
great pyramids and just the amount of

3703
02:56:13,640 --> 02:56:11,670
coring and transporting and feeding and

3704
02:56:16,551 --> 02:56:13,650
and everything else that had to have

3705
02:56:16,910 --> 02:56:16,561
been in place that math doesn't work for

3706
02:56:18,801 --> 02:56:16,920
me

3707
02:56:21,470 --> 02:56:18,811
it's a pretty good economic stimulus

3708
02:56:25,280 --> 02:56:21,480
program right nobody had another gig

3709
02:56:27,530 --> 02:56:25,290
that's for sure you know what I wanted

3710
02:56:29,150 --> 02:56:27,540
to underline something you just said I

3711
02:56:31,370 --> 02:56:29,160
have actually a great example for you

3712
02:56:33,140 --> 02:56:31,380
know you said Saqqara they they saw the

3713
02:56:35,630 --> 02:56:33,150
pre-existing pyramids and they tried to

3714
02:56:38,420 --> 02:56:35,640
imitate it mhm I actually saw something

3715
02:56:40,551 --> 02:56:38,430
like that next to the Sphinx it was it

3716
02:56:43,820 --> 02:56:40,561
was incredible I I walked up to the

3717
02:56:46,790 --> 02:56:43,830
mastaba of kyyy it's a rock-cut tomb

3718
02:56:49,640 --> 02:56:46,800
it's the most bizarre tomb I think in

3719
02:56:51,230 --> 02:56:49,650
all of Giza and I'm standing in front of

3720
02:56:54,740 --> 02:56:51,240
this tomb and I think I'm looking at a

3721
02:56:56,480 --> 02:56:54,750
lion face and so and you know and Colin

3722
02:56:58,761 --> 02:56:56,490
reader has done great work there he's

3723
02:57:01,850 --> 02:56:58,771
basically shown evidence that that tomb

3724
02:57:04,761 --> 02:57:01,860
or that that rock is is not fourth

3725
02:57:07,670 --> 02:57:04,771
dynasty or fifth dynasty rather so Kai

3726
02:57:10,670 --> 02:57:07,680
II was a son of one of I think men

3727
02:57:12,950 --> 02:57:10,680
cowers wives but he's saying that that

3728
02:57:16,390 --> 02:57:12,960
was the first dynasty construction and

3729
02:57:19,940 --> 02:57:16,400
it was used by Kai II as a tomb later

3730
02:57:22,130 --> 02:57:19,950
and that would be an example potentially

3731
02:57:24,350 --> 02:57:22,140
if that is a lion face and I showed it

3732
02:57:27,020 --> 02:57:24,360
to Robert Schoch a couple of nights ago

3733
02:57:28,490 --> 02:57:27,030
and he he was shaking his head and

3734
02:57:30,560 --> 02:57:28,500
laughing we were both looking at this

3735
02:57:33,830 --> 02:57:30,570
picture and we're saying yeah man that's

3736
02:57:34,479 --> 02:57:33,840
a lion face so I mean when you go to

3737
02:57:36,099 --> 02:57:34,489
Egypt neck

3738
02:57:38,649 --> 02:57:36,109
I'm Jimmy you got a look at this tomb

3739
02:57:40,119 --> 02:57:38,659
tomb of khai II stand in front of it and

3740
02:57:44,499 --> 02:57:40,129
you think you're looking at a

3741
02:57:46,689 --> 02:57:44,509
prehistoric lion and that and but but

3742
02:57:48,369 --> 02:57:46,699
it's data to the first dynasty and so

3743
02:57:49,779 --> 02:57:48,379
that is so a good example of what you

3744
02:57:51,969 --> 02:57:49,789
were just saying that could have been an

3745
02:57:53,590 --> 02:57:51,979
image and an act of imitation they saw

3746
02:57:56,109 --> 02:57:53,600
the Sphinx which of course was sitting

3747
02:57:57,789 --> 02:57:56,119
Mohito sitting there right for thousands

3748
02:57:59,619 --> 02:57:57,799
of years and they see that and they

3749
02:58:01,869 --> 02:57:59,629
tried to build a tomb right next to it

3750
02:58:04,449 --> 02:58:01,879
that has the face of a lion what a

3751
02:58:06,789 --> 02:58:04,459
fascinating conversation tonight Manu I

3752
02:58:10,769 --> 02:58:06,799
can't wait to to get you back on the

3753
02:58:16,809 --> 02:58:10,779
show and we'll continue all of this I

3754
02:58:19,359 --> 02:58:16,819
hope that you are prepared for the the

3755
02:58:21,279 --> 02:58:19,369
comments and what is about to follow in

3756
02:58:23,380 --> 02:58:21,289
the days and weeks ahead

3757
02:58:25,119 --> 02:58:23,390
following the publishing of this paper I

3758
02:58:27,579 --> 02:58:25,129
mean you know that that's what you do

3759
02:58:29,710 --> 02:58:27,589
you've got to roll that rock uphill and

3760
02:58:30,159 --> 02:58:29,720
this paper is fascinating thank you so

3761
02:58:31,809 --> 02:58:30,169
much

3762
02:58:34,329 --> 02:58:31,819
you were basing something thank you so

3763
02:58:36,399 --> 02:58:34,339
much and good night yeah absolutely and

3764
02:58:37,659 --> 02:58:36,409
enjoy the rest of your night and I can't

3765
02:58:42,389 --> 02:58:37,669
wait to get you back on the show thank

3766
02:58:45,819 --> 02:58:42,399
you so much hey take care Manu said a

3767
02:58:49,510 --> 02:58:45,829
unbelievable conversation now we will

3768
02:58:52,210 --> 02:58:49,520
get his paper up I've got I've got the

3769
02:58:53,469 --> 02:58:52,220
real paper here I've been blessed but

3770
02:58:55,389 --> 02:58:53,479
we'll get the links up to where

3771
02:58:57,550 --> 02:58:55,399
everybody can go and have access to it

3772
02:59:00,069 --> 02:58:57,560
it's unbelievable

3773
02:59:03,609 --> 02:59:00,079
tomorrow night on this show right here

3774
02:59:06,159 --> 02:59:03,619
Christopher Dunne for night two of our

3775
02:59:07,329 --> 02:59:06,169
Egypt week here on fade to black - stay

3776
02:59:07,869 --> 02:59:07,339
right there I'm going to talk to you

3777
02:59:10,300 --> 02:59:07,879
after the show

3778
02:59:12,219 --> 02:59:10,310
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3779
02:59:14,679 --> 02:59:12,229
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3780
02:59:17,319 --> 02:59:14,689
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3781
02:59:20,199 --> 02:59:17,329
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3782
02:59:23,590 --> 02:59:20,209
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3783
02:59:29,541 --> 02:59:23,600
aldrich intro space boys space boy music

3784
02:59:34,881 --> 02:59:32,631
Keiji are a the planet this broadcast

3785
02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:34,891
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02:59:38,781 --> 02:59:36,570
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3787
02:59:40,191 --> 02:59:38,791
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3788
02:59:42,560 --> 02:59:40,201
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3789
02:59:44,600 --> 02:59:42,570
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3790
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3791
02:59:51,441 --> 02:59:48,301
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3792
02:59:53,991 --> 02:59:51,451
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3793
03:00:05,990 --> 02:59:54,001
Christopher done right here I want